----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High B+F with DS-10 > From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High B+F with DS-10 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:16:24 -0500 > >> Most any ferricyanide, dichromate or >> permanganate bleach can be used. > > Are you serious? > How can I use ferricyanide bleach in reversal processing? > > I consider triacetate film base inferior to polyester base > and I would avoid them as much as possible. > -- > Ryuji Suzuki > "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera." Ferricyanide converts metallic silver back to a halide, or at least a form which can then be removed by hypo. For B&W reversal one must remove the original silver image without affecting the remaining undeveloped halide. A dichromate or Permanganate bleach will do this. In color reversal it is not necessary to bleach the negative silver image. The first developer is such that it does not react with the color couplers to produce dye, the reversal, or second developer is the one that generates the dye. Since it works only on the halide remaining after the first development a reversal color image is produced. A bleach which removes the silver from the film without affecting the dye is then used to clear the film. A ferricyanide bleach can be used here. It is generally made up into a sort of strong Farmer's reducer and called Blix, or combined bleach-fix. The thiocyanate or thiosulfate used in the first developer removes very insensitive halide particles which are not made developable by the original camera exposure. If not removed these will remain in the highlight areas after the first development and be developed during the second development. The effect is to veil the highlights in the reversed image. These particles are so insensitive that no amount of overexposure of the original will cause them to be developable. The addition of some halide solvent to the first developer results in clear highlights and an increase in the effective speed of the film as a reversal film. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.