[pure-silver] Re: At long last you can watch Long Live Film
- From: "bobkiss @caribsurf.com" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:00:40 -0400
The way I use the words when teaching in this digital age is:
IMAGE: The thing you see on a computer or TV screen (or even in what Ansel
Adams called "the score", the negative). A two dimensional abstraction
from three dimensional "reality". Because of all the choices I make when
making an exposure, I feel I do create the image.
OBJECT OF ART The physical manifestation of the above i.e., the print.
Today hundreds of millions of people make images which are only seen on
screens. The artists or craft-persons make prints, though some do work in
digital media.
I create images then I make prints of them.
CHEERS!
BOB
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Bill <billtech@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I was going to agree with you about “image” (I do agree that it’s gilding
> the snapshot in an attempt to be…arty?) but then I thought i’d look up
> “image”. The Oxford English Dictionary says image is:
>
>
> - 1a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art.
> - a visible impression obtained by a camera, telescope, microscope,
> or other device, or displayed on a computer or video screen.
>
>
> So, based on that, I’d say we make images. My splitting of hairs occurs
> when I say that I don’t “take” pictures, I “make” them.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Michael A. Smith and Paula Chamlee <
> michaelandpaula@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yes, we do not "shoot." We "make."
>
> We also do not make images. We make photographs. Images exist on either a
> ground glass or on a computer/other screen of some type. A photograph is an
> object—usually two-dimensionally flat, but not necessarily so. Anyone who
> makes digital capture and never makes prints cannot be called a
> photographer because they do not make photographs. They might be called
> image makers, however.
>
> Photographers who call their photographs "images" are being factually
> incorrect. To me using "images" instead of photographs is an (often
> unconscious) attempt at being high falutin.
>
>
> On 11/18/13 3:05 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I half-agree. I agree that we make pictures, or images, but I do think
> that we shoot them. The thing is that “shoot” is only one step in the
> process. “Fire” isn’t much good without “Ready..Aim…”, and shoot isn’t much
> good without “Meter…Set…Compose…” Then, after the
> reaady-meter-set-compose-shoot sequence comes the
> develop-stop-fix-wash-dry-enlarge-crop-expose-develop-stop-fix-wash-dry
> sequence. So, for me, “shoot” is a perfect description of 1/125th of a
> second of the whole process (with medium speed film and good light).
>
> -Bill
>
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 11/18/2013 11:41 AM, Ken Sinclair wrote:
>
> Shooting… shoot…. shot ?????
> Its almost enough to make an old man weep
>
> Ken
>
> I agree. We make pictures, we don't take or shoot them.
>
>
> P.S. It make me shutter ...
>
>
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