[projectaon] Re: Editor's Companion Submission
- From: Sam Seaver <samseaver@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:51:13 -0500
I grew up learning "dwell" in the context of physical location, and
only later did I read its use in context of mental location. A good
place to read up its usage would be LOTR.
S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:26 PM, James Durrant
<james.durrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Many conversations on both "dwell" and "their" recently :)
>
> I have certainly heard "let's not dwell here" in relative commonplace to
> mean not to stay in one place too long. It's not often used in modern
> conversation, but I am sure you will find it in various historical
> literature - it is kind of the meeting of "to dwell on a subject" and "to
> live" - I picture along the lines of to dwell too long at a camp, or to
> dwell too long at a single pub - whether literally right or not, these just
> "feel" right.
>
> On "their" - this is always controversial. I am of the modern opinion, that
> "their" works well as a common term to mean gender AND item neutral. "The
> dog ate their food" seems to work just as well as any other use of the word,
> whether it is technically correct or not.
>
> Language is always an evolution of solving communication issues - the rules
> NEVER fit all cases. When we are then dealing with a different world, and
> hence translation - the rules tend to get even harder to enforce.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pederick@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:28:18 +0800
> Subject: [projectaon] Re: Editor's Companion Submission
> To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> 2010/1/30 David Davis <feline1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Definition no.2,
>
> "to live or continue in a given condition or state"? Vakovar is a concrete
> place, while this definition would seem to apply to abstract "condition[s]
> or state[s]". Besides which, Lone Wolf definitely isn't considering "living"
> there, and Id' say that to "continue" in a place is synonymous with
> "remaining", and without some context of time, it implies "remaining
> indefinitely" -- essentially, the usual definition of dwell.
>
>
> plus the etymology
>
> I do agree that this one etymological extract supports "linger" being an
> archaic sense of "dwell":
>
>> Sense shifted in M.E. through "hinder, delay," to "linger" (c.1200, as
>> still in phrase to dwell upon), to "make a home" (c.1250). Dwelling
>> "place of residence" is attested from 1340.
>
> But I really think it's too thin a justification for using "dwell" in the
> ordinary prose of the book, as opposed to (for instance) some character's
> clearly archaic speech.
>
> --
> Tim Pederick
>
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