Re: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re: WhichLinux + screen reader to choose?

  • From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:06:39 +0100

Hi,

On most technical mailing lists the standard is bottom or inline posting.
Since most quoters use "greater than" as the quote character, I think
a good solution could be worked out by scripting your mail client or your
screen reader with a "don't read quoted text" option.

--Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re:
WhichLinux + screen reader to choose?


> I second this request.  I realize that sighted participants in list
> discussions often use in-line quoting, but despite my efforts to adapt
> to it, I have found it highly inefficient for me as a screen reader
> user.  When I have been following a message thread, it is annoying to
> have to hear repetitions of previous correspondence before getting to
> new material -- enough so that I reach a point of deleting messages not
> directed specifically to me if I discover the writer consistently
> practices this style of email.  I know the intent is not negative, but
> the reality is that it presents significant usability problems for blind
> people with today's email and screen reader technologies -- at least the
> ones with which with I'm familiar.
>
> Regards,
> Jamal
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, James Panes wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:06:45 -0400
> > From: James Panes <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re: Which
> >     Linux + screen reader to choose?
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > It is common courtesy on this list to place your responses at the
beginning
> > of your email. This way, people do not have to arrow down through what
they
> > have already read to get to your text. I emailed you about this
off-list,
> > but was rebuffed and ignored.
> >
> > Sorry, but as long as you persist in the practice of placing your
responses
> > at the bottom of your email, I am just going to delete them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim
> > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "Everything is easy when you know how."
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: Which Linux + screen reader to choose?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, inthaneelf wrote:
> >
> > > obviously many don't think espeak sounds as good as eloquence, and are
> > > looking for something that does, eh?
> >
> > I dunno what they are talking about, sounds great here...
> >
> > Try the link in my other post and see if it works.
> > Could be broken...
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Dalton
> >
> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/
> > <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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