why should I change an application because of one or a couple other users, that's like the dude out here that insisted that we change our clients to plain text instead of html, because it gave him a problem, while his bloody plain text messages gave all of us using outlook in the standard set up a bunch of garbage on the screen, excuse me but that's out of line, way out of line!
inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dunleavy" <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:06 AMSubject: Re: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re: WhichLinux + screen reader to choose?
Hi, On most technical mailing lists the standard is bottom or inline posting. Since most quoters use "greater than" as the quote character, I think a good solution could be worked out by scripting your mail client or your screen reader with a "don't read quoted text" option. --Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re: WhichLinux + screen reader to choose?I second this request. I realize that sighted participants in list discussions often use in-line quoting, but despite my efforts to adapt to it, I have found it highly inefficient for me as a screen reader user. When I have been following a message thread, it is annoying to have to hear repetitions of previous correspondence before getting to new material -- enough so that I reach a point of deleting messages not directed specifically to me if I discover the writer consistently practices this style of email. I know the intent is not negative, but the reality is that it presents significant usability problems for blind people with today's email and screen reader technologies -- at least the ones with which with I'm familiar. Regards, Jamal On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, James Panes wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:06:45 -0400 > From: James Panes <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Please place responses at the beginning of your email.Re: > Which> Linux + screen reader to choose? > > Hi Daniel, > > It is common courtesy on this list to place your responses at thebeginning> of your email. This way, people do not have to arrow down through whatthey> have already read to get to your text. I emailed you about thisoff-list,> but was rebuffed and ignored. > > Sorry, but as long as you persist in the practice of placing yourresponses> at the bottom of your email, I am just going to delete them. > > Regards, > Jim > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx > jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx > "Everything is easy when you know how." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:22 AM > Subject: Re: Which Linux + screen reader to choose? > > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, inthaneelf wrote: >> > obviously many don't think espeak sounds as good as eloquence, and > > are> > looking for something that does, eh? > > I dunno what they are talking about, sounds great here... > > Try the link in my other post and see if it works. > Could be broken... > > -- > Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Information in this email (including attachments) is confidential.It is intended for receipt and consideration only by the intended recipient.If you are not an addressee or intended recipient, any use, dissemination,distribution, disclosure, publication or copying of information contained in this email is strictly prohibited. Opinions expressed in this email may bepersonal to the author and are not necessarily the opinions of the HSE.If this email has been received by you in error we would be grateful if you could immediately notify the ICT Service Desk by telephone at +353 1 6352757or by email to service.desk@xxxxxxxxxxxx and thereafter delete this e-mail from your system" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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