Re: NVDA vs JFW
- From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:01:05 -0600
Probably not. It might make them actually improve their product so
that it actually becomes closer to being worth the price they charge.
Boy, what a sentence! Biggest threats to FS and company, I think, are
the combinations of Linux, Mac and the open source screen reader for
windows NVDA put together. the first two represent one in that blind
people are no longer bound to windows if they want to be productive.
Haven't been for years but it's becoming more and more well-known.
NVDa is a threat because windows users aren't forced to pick them to
get a decent product anymore. Most especially now that nvda is
scriptable. They might actaully have to start wooing us again. It'll
be like the good old days of Dos when there were lots of big kids in
town. You had virt, Virt Plus, Mastertouch, Vocal Eyes, Screen Power,
and Jaws for Dos. Good, strong, healthy competition all around which
produced some nice products back then. Windows ruined everything so
to speak because only a few of those companies were ready for it.
Speak-up reminds me a lot of many of them. That's the console screen
reader for Linux, btw. Emacspeak reminds me of Keysoft and Orca
reminds me of Jaws and NVDA both. Wish NVDA and Orca could share
code. Orca could benefit from whatever NVDA did to work so amazingly
wel with Firefox. It's in Python, after all. Platforms might be too
different though. anyone have thoughts on this?
Alex M
Alex M
On 12/14/10, Katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Speaking of FS, do you think that an open source example will help them to
> control their greed?
>
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> I would strongly urge everybody on this list to contribute something to
> NVDA. Even $5 or $10 from each one of you would go a long way to the
> development of their software.
> We have to support projects like this. Otherwise, companies like Freedom
> Scientific will continue to charge exorbitant fees for software for the
> blind.
>
>
> H.R. Soltani
>
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> Great job on NVDA -- I am a jaws user, but the times I have used NVDA when
> jaws is crashed, I find it to be really impressive for an opensource project
> this young. It's good the braille is coming along.
> Just thought I'd mention it.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lex" <lex@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: NVDA vs JFW
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> It is my first message on this list, so here goes a brief introduction.
> My name is Aleksey, I am from Kyiv, Ukraine. I am a student of the
> Faculty of Computer Science at National University of "Kyiv-Mohyla
> Academy". Besides other activities, I am one of developers of NVDA, a
> free and open-source screen reader for Windows.
>
> 14.12.2010 17:02, Alex Midence пишет:
>> My big gripe with it is that it is not scriptable. You can't create
>> different configuration sets that load whenever certain aplicaitons
>> are loaded. Having said that, I think NVVDA will overtake Jaws in
>> about 2 or 3 years because they keep adding more and more features to
>> it. Woudln't surprise me if the scripting feature I mentioned gets
>> added soon.
> You're right, it is introduced in the latest snapshots. See global
> plugins. One issue is that i don't know about any tutorials on how to
> start with NVDA scripting, you have to look through NVDA source code to
> find how to do this and that. If someone is willing to write some, it
> will be very appreciated. I feel that I can't do it well myself, since I
> am not English native speaker and am not able to write nicely.
> nevertheless, scripting in NVDA is very powerful since one has all the
> power of Python programming language with its "batteries included"
> concept. However, since NVDA is designed in very object-oriented way,
> one should understand a bit of OOP concepts (though not obligatory) to
> manage it.
> I will be happy to consult everyone, who expresses the wish to learn how
> to create NVDA plugins and write some tutorials afterwards.
>
>
> Lex
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