Re: NVDA vs JFW

  • From: "QuentinC" <quentinc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:27:41 +0100

@Jim
I'm not trying to be offensive with this post, but you should read the NVDA docs. They have something they call a review cursor, which is always on.

NVDA Review cursor is not the same as jaws cursor. If I have well understood, with NVDA review cursor, you can't go out of the currently focused control, except if you use go to nextt/prev/parent/ child (by default : NVDA + numpad 2/4/6/8). However, navigating component tree is really not practical, everything is fast up and down in my head, and applications are so strangely made...

In contrast, jaws cursor offer reviewing controls as they appear on screen. You don't have to think about trees. It is much better to navigate in applications which are not so well focus-aware or which have not so well labelled controls. It's also much better to understand how the components are arranged on screen, what is sometimes useful, for a signted person who help you, or in development to check if things are well aligned or so. You can't do all that with NVDA review cursor.

@Lex
Q1. Since NVDA is by the name NVDA, not jaws, the answer is no. But in the
latest stable NVDA 2010.2 we introduced flat review mode (with help of
display hooks) which acts in quite similar way. Go and try it.

I named that feature jaws cursor, but it was only a reference to the principle, because I don't know any other name to explain what I mean. Of course, in any case I told you to call it jaws cursor in NVDA... That's good news if you have implemented such a feature. I will try it when I have time. When did you introduce it ? It's just to know if I have to re-download NVDA or not, I download it last time on august.

Q4. It is absent in NVDA for now. NVDA can indicate formatting in speech though.

Yes, of course, I know. But it is less sexy to have speech synthesizer saying « bold » in the middle of a text instead of simply having the voice pitch raised or having another specific voice selected for example.

Thank you for your answers.


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