RE: NVDA and Eloquence

I think what I said about nvda may or may not be true I heard it at one time
but after reading what Jamal sent I don't know if they are doing it.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alphonso
McFadden
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:52 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: NVDA and Eloquence

Where is that located?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: NVDA and Eloquence


>I would suppose the problem is Freedom has paid the licenses to use
> eloquence and if you change the way they install eloquence by changing
> registries you are breaking the license.  Thus while technically its 
> illegal
> I doubt anyone is going to come in in a black trench coat and take your
> computer.  I would however point out that you can now buy a copy of nvda 
> for
> like 10 bucks and get a much better experience with what used to be ibm 
> via
> voice.
>
> ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:37 AM
> To: programmingblind
> Subject: NVDA and Eloquence
>
> I am trying to understand the legal issues around use of NVDA with the
> Eloquence speech installed with JAWS.  I have heard that it is
> technically easy to make this work, thereby substantially improving the
> NVDA experience.  On the blind-mozilla list, however, it was stated that
> this is absolutely illegal to do, and even discussion of the topic was
> prohibited on the list.  I did not realize this was such a controversial
> topic, but trust that we can at least discuss it here, being careful as
> appropriate not to encourage particular actions.
>
> As I think we know, just because a company says that some activity is an
> impermissible use of software does not make it so.  For example, I have
> heard of the "Jailbreak" issue with the iPhone, and that this has been
> deemed legal by an authoritative body, despite initial protests by a
> company.  Am I understanding that right?
>
> So, I am interested in any official statement that asserts the
> illegality of using Eloquence with NVDA.  Can someone point me to a web
> page?
>
> Please understand that I am not encouraging such activity, especially
> since my knowledge of the topic is limited at present.  I do think,
> however, that if people are being told that something is absolutely
> illegal that they deserve some kind of authoritative reference for that
> assertion, given the corresponding implication that one would be a
> criminal to do so.
>
> Jamal
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