RE: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:40:03 -0400

I think its fine with Jaws as long as you use the scripts.  The problem is
we are not even taking advantage of half of what visual studio allows
because we have one set of scripts for the free version and the pay.  If we
made a version of scripts for the pay version that has automation we could
access everything.  In fact they have made it so accessible if someone was
to sit down they could re write the entire interface using the API's they
have.  It's not that it's not accessible it's that the current IDE is not
designed for blind in mind but you see Microsoft has given us the power to
make it both usable and accessible..

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:20 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.

My research team just finished some usability testing with blind
children using visual studio 2010 and JAWS 11. The students were able
to use it to complete simple problems, but VS 2010 has a pretty large
laundry list of accessibility problems, in my opinion.

Stefik

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Katherine Moss
<plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't see how version 2010 is inaccessible though.  I was on my desktop
at
> home and I was placing buttons on a winform app as well as setting their
> properties correctly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:30 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting
divorced.
>
> VS 2005 and 2008 are both made accessible with the jaws scripts and
> information available at my grab bag site (URL under my name)
>
> and/or with information and/or tools available at non visual
development.org
> www.NonvisualDevelopment.org
>
> and has been for years
>
> HTH,
> inthane
> Moderator, Blind Access Help
> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
> www.alacorncomputer.com
> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Gallik" <BillGallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:22 AM
> Subject: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.
>
>
>> The last time I attempted to teach myself C++ in the Visual Studio SDE I
>> found it basically inaccessible.  Has there been a significant
progression
>
>> toward accessibility in the Visual Studio environment? It would seem,
>> judging from all the respondants to this thread -- that Visual Studio has
>> indeed become more screen reader friendly.  And, if so, which version(s)?
>> ----
>> Holland's Person, Bill
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