Lol thought I'd put a humorous subject in there to try and lift my spirits a little bit. I've been working on a project for five days straight, sacrificing sleep and other stuff to get the stupid thing done, and I've decided that while I like programming, C++ is a bit to complicated for me at this point. I am a musician, so after I get this beast of an assignment done, I'm divorcing C++ and moving back to music for a bit. Audio editors and sequencers all do whatever I tell them too, they don't bitch at me like M S Visual Studio or GCC. As the average pc user declares, "They, just, work. " Grin. I won't be able to make anything more than simple programs, no matter how much I like programming. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind