RE: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.

What am I missing?  Am I oblivious to this?  I haven't seen one problem
accessing any of it.  

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:33 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Andreas Stefik
Subject: Re: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.

Andreas,
By any chance, is there a report on this topic by your research team 
that you can share?  It could be helpful in highlighting aspects of 
VS2010 that need screen reader scripting.  It could also be conveyed to 
Microsoft to help it understand problems that we are encountering with 
this latest VS.

Jamal


On 7/28/2010 9:20 PM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
> My research team just finished some usability testing with blind
> children using visual studio 2010 and JAWS 11. The students were able
> to use it to complete simple problems, but VS 2010 has a pretty large
> laundry list of accessibility problems, in my opinion.
>
> Stefik
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Katherine Moss
> <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> I don't see how version 2010 is inaccessible though.  I was on my desktop
at
>> home and I was placing buttons on a winform app as well as setting their
>> properties correctly.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:30 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting
divorced.
>>
>> VS 2005 and 2008 are both made accessible with the jaws scripts and
>> information available at my grab bag site (URL under my name)
>>
>> and/or with information and/or tools available at non visual
development.org
>> www.NonvisualDevelopment.org
>>
>> and has been for years
>>
>> HTH,
>> inthane
>> Moderator, Blind Access Help
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
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>> for blind computer users and programmers
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Gallik"<BillGallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:22 AM
>> Subject: Is Visual C++ Accessible - Was: C++ and I are getting divorced.
>>
>>
>>> The last time I attempted to teach myself C++ in the Visual Studio SDE I
>>> found it basically inaccessible.  Has there been a significant
progression
>>
>>> toward accessibility in the Visual Studio environment? It would seem,
>>> judging from all the respondants to this thread -- that Visual Studio
has
>>> indeed become more screen reader friendly.  And, if so, which
version(s)?
>>> ----
>>> Holland's Person, Bill
>>> E-Mail: BillGallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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