If octave or axiom or blacks would be of assistance those are all available on the Debian Linux platform including r-recommended which is a whole suite of statistics packages. Octave is a matlab competitor and debian is useable with either large print or speech or braille from both command line and within gnome and gtk. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 15:04 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Any support/suggestions for a blind student... Joseph, you can add me to the list of references, it's been a few years but I was almost completely through an AA degree in computer information systems and did math and the rest via computer. I think somewhere I have a reference for a math assistance application, I'll take a look and see what I have on hand now. take care, and good luck, elf "Three things that should NEVER! be brought together; a laptop computer, a full cup of coffee, and a sneeze!" - Unknown Author- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:44 AM Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student... > Hi Jude, > Yes, I do have vast memory of vision (I was a low vision kid before I got > glacoma at age 14). As for user interface, I can picture it in my head. > For now, those are not of my concern, but maybe for future classes (there > is a class just for graphics development at my school, and one of the > professors here is a researcher in this field). > If you permit me, I'm happy to share your email address (along with Black > Aires) to my professors (especially the graphics researcher) so that you > can assist them. Thanks for your notes (I'll keep those in mind). > Cheers, > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date sent: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:26:29 -0400 > Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student... > > If memory serves one of the email lists I receive distributed a message > containing R.N.I.B. summary study results from a study R.N.I.B. > published in 2009. The study used 300 participants with all levels of > blindness. The study's purpose was to discover to what extent blind > people could do graphical user interface software development. The > results shouldn't have been surprising either. It was found that those > participants who had some memory of vision could do graphical user > interface programming; the longer the memory of vision, the easier it > was for them to do software development. The participants that had no > memory of vision however had major difficulties with doing that kind of > programming. In time this will impact windows and software development > platform interfaces that run on windows but that hasn't yet happened. A > real good analogy to consider on the Linux side is a software package > called xenity. What xenity does is to inhale a bash script and produce > a graphical user interface-friendly program equivalent that can be run > on gnome with a mouse click. As I see it, Microsoft made two mistakes > with Windows which until they're corrected the best software for those > of us with no memory of vision to program for will be Linux in its > varied forms. First, the command line interface was made into a very > poorly equipped environment for software development. Second, if > someone does console-based development of software within Windows to my > knowledge to date no xenity equivalents yet exist for any supported > software development package now running on Windows; I would love to be > corrected on this point if at all possible even if packages under active > development are all that can be offered as suggestions. > > > > Rot47: <;F56]52D9:6==@?2GJ]>:= > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 17:11 > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Any support/suggestions for a blind student... > > Hi veterans, programmers and students, > For those who does not know me, I am Joseph, a computer science > sophomore student at University of California, Riverside (UCR). > My main interests are all about assistive technology and computer > education, more specifically embedded devices, networking and so > forth. > One of my CS professors who teaches C++, asked me to ask you if > you have any suggestions/opinions for learning graphics and > general mathematics, which I know is important for engineering. > I thought of using tactile arablets such as so-called "Talking > Tactile Tablet" or via PIAF (Picture In A Flash). Since I'm the > first blind CS student at UCR, the engineering professors there > are interested in how a blind student can learn programming and > graphics. I told the professors there about this list and how > there are blind programmers (like you guys) who writes GUI apps. > So, in summary, I'm wondering if there is a programmer here who > can work with me to come up with a solution - allowing me to > learn programming effectively from a blindness perspective. If > you permit me, I'm willing to pass on your contact information to > the UCR CS faculty so that they can contact you for assistance > (especially when it comes to learning graphical information such > as math, hardware organization chart and so forth). Thanks for > any assistance on this matter. > Sincerely, > Joseph S. 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