RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

  • From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:35:54 -0400

If octave or axiom or blacks would be of assistance those are all
available on the Debian Linux platform including r-recommended which is
a whole suite of statistics packages.  Octave is a matlab competitor and
debian is useable with either large print or speech or braille from both
command line and within gnome and gtk.   

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 15:04
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Joseph,

you can add me to the list of references, it's been a few years but I
was 
almost completely through an AA degree in computer information systems
and 
did math and the rest via computer.

I think somewhere I have a reference for a math assistance application,
I'll 
take a look and see what I have on hand now.

take care, and good luck,
elf
"Three things that should NEVER! be brought together; a laptop computer,
a 
full cup of coffee, and a sneeze!"
- Unknown Author-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:44 AM
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...


> Hi Jude,
> Yes, I do have vast memory of vision (I was a low vision kid before I
got 
> glacoma at age 14).  As for user interface, I can picture it in my
head.
> For now, those are not of my concern, but maybe for future classes
(there 
> is a class just for graphics development at my school, and one of the 
> professors here is a researcher in this field).
> If you permit me, I'm happy to share your email address (along with
Black 
> Aires) to my professors (especially the graphics researcher) so that
you 
> can assist them.  Thanks for your notes (I'll keep those in mind).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26"
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:26:29 -0400
> Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...
>
> If memory serves one of the email lists I receive distributed a
message
> containing R.N.I.B.  summary study results from a study R.N.I.B.
> published in 2009.  The study used 300 participants with all levels of
> blindness.  The study's purpose was to discover to what extent blind
> people could do graphical user interface software development.  The
> results shouldn't have been surprising either.  It was found that
those
> participants who had some memory of vision could do graphical user
> interface programming; the longer the memory of vision, the easier it
> was for them to do software development.  The participants that had no
> memory of vision however had major difficulties with doing that kind
of
> programming.  In time this will impact windows and software
development
> platform interfaces that run on windows but that hasn't yet happened.
A
> real good analogy to consider on the Linux side is a software package
> called xenity.  What xenity does is to inhale a bash script and
produce
> a graphical user interface-friendly program equivalent that can be run
> on gnome with a mouse click.  As I see it, Microsoft made two mistakes
> with Windows which until they're corrected the best software for those
> of us with no memory of vision to program for will be Linux in its
> varied forms.  First, the command line interface was made into a very
> poorly equipped environment for software development.  Second, if
> someone does console-based development of software within Windows to
my
> knowledge to date no xenity equivalents yet exist for any supported
> software development package now running on Windows; I would love to
be
> corrected on this point if at all possible even if packages under
active
> development are all that can be offered as suggestions.
>
>
>
> Rot47: <;F56]52D9:6==@?2GJ]>:=
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 17:11
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...
>
> Hi veterans, programmers and students,
> For those who does not know me, I am Joseph, a computer science
> sophomore student at University of California, Riverside (UCR).
> My main interests are all about assistive technology and computer
> education, more specifically embedded devices, networking and so
> forth.
> One of my CS professors who teaches C++, asked me to ask you if
> you have any suggestions/opinions for learning graphics and
> general mathematics, which I know is important for engineering.
> I thought of using tactile arablets such as so-called "Talking
> Tactile Tablet" or via PIAF (Picture In A Flash).  Since I'm the
> first blind CS student at UCR, the engineering professors there
> are interested in how a blind student can learn programming and
> graphics.  I told the professors there about this list and how
> there are blind programmers (like you guys) who writes GUI apps.
> So, in summary, I'm wondering if there is a programmer here who
> can work with me to come up with a solution - allowing me to
> learn programming effectively from a blindness perspective.  If
> you permit me, I'm willing to pass on your contact information to
> the UCR CS faculty so that they can contact you for assistance
> (especially when it comes to learning graphical information such
> as math, hardware organization chart and so forth).  Thanks for
> any assistance on this matter.
> Sincerely,
> Joseph S.  Lee
> University of California, Riverside
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