RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:32:41 -0400

Its fine with me use this email or my work one kperry@xxxxxxx

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Hi Ken,
Thanks for your support.
I already talked to the disabilities services at my school, and 
they don't know of anyone who was an engineering major (who was 
blind), so it is new to them.  If you want, I'll forward your 
email address to my teachers so that they can talk to you for 
help (if it's fine with you).
Again thanks for your offer.
Cheers,
Joseph P.S.  I'm not using an Icon/Braille Plus (I'm using 
BrailleNote Apex).

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:43:25 -0400
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

I have not only passed but passed calculus with almost all A's.  
not only
that but I have a BS in computer science  "Software Engineering" 
so I know
it can be done.  It is not easy.  In my day I had a program 
called explore
math which is equivalent to the HP-48 and TI 89 calculators  The 
program
still exists but it's not as accessible as it used to be.  With 
that said a
lot of what I did with it can be done with python and sympy and 
other
calculators like Tigers.  Don't be afraid to talk to the 
disability resource
center in your area if you have one.  I had a reader for all my 
tests.  I
could do 2 and 3 page equations in my head but you need to be 
able to write
down what you do and the easiest way to do this is to have a  
reader.  Some
people will argue with me and want to do it all on their own but 
I found you
will need the skills to describe concepts like this so might as 
well start
while in school and use the readers they have.  One important 
thing though
make sure you get a reader that knows what the heck they are 
doing.  I had
an English student once read a Trig test and they actually wrote 
the words
out for all the symbols and the math teacher told me it took him 
almost 3
hours to grade the test.

I would be willing to talk with any instructors that need to talk 
to a blind
person who has been through it.  There is also Sina here on this 
list who is
working on his PHD and is still in the Academic world but if you 
need
someone out here already coding in the field I am a good one to 
call.  My
work phone at APH is

Phone:  502-899-2336

Please only call if it's important like this Teacher needing 
information.
Do not call because your Braille+ or Icon's Sudoku puzzle is not 
working.

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Hi veterans, programmers and students,
For those who does not know me, I am Joseph, a computer science
sophomore student at University of California, Riverside (UCR).
My main interests are all about assistive technology and computer
education, more specifically embedded devices, networking and so
forth.
One of my CS professors who teaches C++, asked me to ask you if
you have any suggestions/opinions for learning graphics and
general mathematics, which I know is important for engineering.
I thought of using tactile arablets such as so-called "Talking
Tactile Tablet" or via PIAF (Picture In A Flash).  Since I'm the
first blind CS student at UCR, the engineering professors there
are interested in how a blind student can learn programming and
graphics.  I told the professors there about this list and how
there are blind programmers (like you guys) who writes GUI apps.
So, in summary, I'm wondering if there is a programmer here who
can work with me to come up with a solution - allowing me to
learn programming effectively from a blindness perspective.  If
you permit me, I'm willing to pass on your contact information to
the UCR CS faculty so that they can contact you for assistance
(especially when it comes to learning graphical information such
as math, hardware organization chart and so forth).  Thanks for
any assistance on this matter.
Sincerely,
Joseph S.  Lee
University of California, Riverside
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