Re: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

  • From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:54:08 +0200

I've passed trough a Math and Computer Science department in my university time too.

I have a bsc in Math and Computer Science and a msc in Project Management.
Regarding programming, is the easiest to learn, there are a lot of e-books out there about this field and you can read them using a screen reader.
Also I've used printed books, scanning them and using a ocr software.
For math part, that was the difficult part.
I've used to record with a taperecorder the course and at home to write it in Braille. When I had the occasion I've used one or more of my coleagues as readers, asking them to dictate my course and writting them in braille. At exams, I was allowed with a braille emboser (Perkins) in the class and some one of the professors have dictated the subjects, I have solved them using Braille and after the course I've read back tot the profesor my work. Other profesors, asked me to not write during the exams and they examinated me in place.
Asking me and puting me to give the answers.
Those were the hard exams to sustain, because imagine to speak about egregium theorem and his demonstration with out write nothing.
About graphics,
I was used to hear them described by a sighted person, I am abble to understand such a description.
That was the way I've learned Mathematics.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:43 AM
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...


I have not only passed but passed calculus with almost all A's.  not only
that but I have a BS in computer science  "Software Engineering" so I know
it can be done.  It is not easy.  In my day I had a program called explore
math which is equivalent to the HP-48 and TI 89 calculators  The program
still exists but it's not as accessible as it used to be. With that said a
lot of what I did with it can be done with python and sympy and other
calculators like Tigers. Don't be afraid to talk to the disability resource
center in your area if you have one.  I had a reader for all my tests.  I
could do 2 and 3 page equations in my head but you need to be able to write down what you do and the easiest way to do this is to have a reader. Some people will argue with me and want to do it all on their own but I found you
will need the skills to describe concepts like this so might as well start
while in school and use the readers they have.  One important thing though
make sure you get a reader that knows what the heck they are doing.  I had
an English student once read a Trig test and they actually wrote the words
out for all the symbols and the math teacher told me it took him almost 3
hours to grade the test.

I would be willing to talk with any instructors that need to talk to a blind person who has been through it. There is also Sina here on this list who is
working on his PHD and is still in the Academic world but if you need
someone out here already coding in the field I am a good one to call.  My
work phone at APH is

Phone:  502-899-2336

Please only call if it's important like this Teacher needing information.
Do not call because your Braille+ or Icon's Sudoku puzzle is not working.

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Hi veterans, programmers and students,
For those who does not know me, I am Joseph, a computer science
sophomore student at University of California, Riverside (UCR).
My main interests are all about assistive technology and computer
education, more specifically embedded devices, networking and so
forth.
One of my CS professors who teaches C++, asked me to ask you if
you have any suggestions/opinions for learning graphics and
general mathematics, which I know is important for engineering.
I thought of using tactile arablets such as so-called "Talking
Tactile Tablet" or via PIAF (Picture In A Flash).  Since I'm the
first blind CS student at UCR, the engineering professors there
are interested in how a blind student can learn programming and
graphics.  I told the professors there about this list and how
there are blind programmers (like you guys) who writes GUI apps.
So, in summary, I'm wondering if there is a programmer here who
can work with me to come up with a solution - allowing me to
learn programming effectively from a blindness perspective.  If
you permit me, I'm willing to pass on your contact information to
the UCR CS faculty so that they can contact you for assistance
(especially when it comes to learning graphical information such
as math, hardware organization chart and so forth).  Thanks for
any assistance on this matter.
Sincerely,
Joseph S.  Lee
University of California, Riverside
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