RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

  • From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:55:45 -0700

Hi,
I see your point. Also, the age and develpmental stage would also count in as well. 
Well, thanks for this information.

----- Original Message -----
From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:51:31 -0400
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Joseph,

That being the case, you're in like Flynn.  I think before anyone
attempts to replicate that R.N.I.B. study brain scans ought to be used 
to ensure no additional disabilities fly under the radar and get
incorrectly lumped together and associated with the population of a replication study that's never had memory of vision. Maybe R.N.I.B. had brain scans done, I just don't know for sure and would be lots more comfortable with their results had those scans been done either to screen additional disabilities out or take them into account within the 
study.



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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:44
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Hi Jude,
Yes, I do have vast memory of vision (I was a low vision kid
before I got glacoma at age 14).  As for user interface, I can
picture it in my head.
For now, those are not of my concern, but maybe for future
classes (there is a class just for graphics development at my
school, and one of the professors here is a researcher in this
field).
If you permit me, I'm happy to share your email address (along
with Black Aires) to my professors (especially the graphics
researcher) so that you can assist them.  Thanks for your notes
(I'll keep those in mind).
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26"
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:26:29 -0400
Subject: RE: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

If memory serves one of the email lists I receive distributed a
message
containing R.N.I.B.  summary study results from a study R.N.I.B.
published in 2009.  The study used 300 participants with all
levels of
blindness.  The study's purpose was to discover to what extent
blind
people could do graphical user interface software development.
The
results shouldn't have been surprising either.  It was found that
those
participants who had some memory of vision could do graphical
user
interface programming; the longer the memory of vision, the
easier it
was for them to do software development.  The participants that
had no
memory of vision however had major difficulties with doing that
kind of
programming.  In time this will impact windows and software
development
platform interfaces that run on windows but that hasn't yet
happened.  A
real good analogy to consider on the Linux side is a software
package
called xenity.  What xenity does is to inhale a bash script and
produce
a graphical user interface-friendly program equivalent that can
be run
on gnome with a mouse click.  As I see it, Microsoft made two
mistakes
with Windows which until they're corrected the best software for
those
of us with no memory of vision to program for will be Linux in
its
varied forms.  First, the command line interface was made into a
very
poorly equipped environment for software development.  Second, if
someone does console-based development of software within Windows
to my
knowledge to date no xenity equivalents yet exist for any
supported
software development package now running on Windows; I would love
to be
corrected on this point if at all possible even if packages under
active
development are all that can be offered as suggestions.



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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 17:11
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Any support/suggestions for a blind student...

Hi veterans, programmers and students,
For those who does not know me, I am Joseph, a computer science
sophomore student at University of California, Riverside (UCR).
My main interests are all about assistive technology and computer
education, more specifically embedded devices, networking and so
forth.
One of my CS professors who teaches C++, asked me to ask you if
you have any suggestions/opinions for learning graphics and
general mathematics, which I know is important for engineering.
I thought of using tactile arablets such as so-called "Talking
Tactile Tablet" or via PIAF (Picture In A Flash).  Since I'm the
first blind CS student at UCR, the engineering professors there
are interested in how a blind student can learn programming and
graphics.  I told the professors there about this list and how
there are blind programmers (like you guys) who writes GUI apps.
So, in summary, I'm wondering if there is a programmer here who
can work with me to come up with a solution - allowing me to
learn programming effectively from a blindness perspective.  If
you permit me, I'm willing to pass on your contact information to
the UCR CS faculty so that they can contact you for assistance
(especially when it comes to learning graphical information such
as math, hardware organization chart and so forth).  Thanks for
any assistance on this matter.
Sincerely,
Joseph S.  Lee
University of California, Riverside
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