I don't. I set up the filters to flag mail that isn't addressed *specifically*, letter for letter, byte for byte, to me. I allow first what's real, then mark the rest. When I used to get spam, I just bounced and deleted it without downloading it and it gradually disappeared. I make use of the friends list and anyone who emails me that isn't a known contact will be flagged and added to the blacklist - forged address or not. If I see a message in there that could be legit (hasn't happened yet), I preview it before the bounce. Even though the spammers forge their addresses, a spam list is only worth money if it can be reached. A spammer that takes the time to thread the headers to see if the bounce is bogus still doesn't get anywhere because every suspect message is screened and I'll bounce it every time they send it. The address is no good to them because it's unreachable. Many of their bots, even the smart ones, will take a bounced email address and remove it from the "known good" list and downgrade it to remove or re-verify. These people want easy pickings. They want verifiable known addresses and love the "just delete" crowd. They love them because every time the message is accepted and downloaded, even if it is never read, it's a live fish and it's worth money. They also love the HTML mail crowd because a script inside the mail will also verify the address. The real money isn't in the suckers who respond to the bogus offers. That's just gravy. The real money is in a good list of verified email addresses - preferably with some tracking info linked to the address. On Tuesday 30 September 2003 07:53, you wrote: > I use mail washer too - but I've never used their filters. > I just use it the way it is - and right click and add to the black list > when more comes in. > What do you edit in the black list? > CrisS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: zat > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:03 PM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it? > > > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html#outlook > > It doesn't work with Outlook Express although there is a work around listed > on the bottom of the page. I've not downloaded it yet. Looks complicated. > Right now I've only got one email addy that gives me a real spam headache, > I'm currently using the free version of MailWasher for it. Have to get in > and edit the blacklist though. If I get it right it should take care of a > big amount of that garbage sent to me. > > hth, > zat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cris" <cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:59 PM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it? > > > where is spambyes? I did a google search and it didn't find it. Does it > > also work on outlook express? quite a few of the programs I've looked at > work inside outlook but not inside outlook express. > > > I get new spam every time I open mail washer - and I mark it as > > blacklisted. Most, is to my old address, that I keep saying I am going to > dump because of the spam. I am getting more and more every day on my cris > address - the one I use in this group, and my yahoo groups. > > > crisS > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Weaver > > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:38 AM > > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it? > > > > > > That's the first that I've ever heard someone getting 100%. Most of the > > time I've heard anywhere from 93 to 96%. The other thing I didn't like > > about MailWasher is the fact that it is a proxy service. I would rather > > have a solution such as SpamBayes that directly plugs into my Outlook. > > > > Dave > > To unsub or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > For more info: > //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk > To unsub or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > For more info: > //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk