-=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
- From: "David Weaver" <djweaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:42:31 -0400
Really? Than that has changed, because when I set it up you had to
point your email client to it, if I remember correctly. Making it a
proxy server, as mail went through it before your client.
And let's really think about it. If you have to set filters in
Mailwasher really what is the point? You can do the same thing in most
Email clients, some better than others I will readily admit. I would
rather put in 1 to 2 days of training for Bayesian filtering, than
having to setup rules for every new spam that comes out. K-9 took about
2 days to training for a 97% effective rate. SpamBayes, plugged into
Outlook, showed it good saved mail, and a folder of spam (because I knew
I would need it). Trained it in under 5 minutes. SpamBayes is so good,
that it will even classify mail from the same sender as spam and
non-spam based on its learning. So those forwarded jokes, etc, go
directly to the spam folder (the deleted Items folder).
If you want to talk "true" power, the power lies with Bayesian
filtering. It doesn't have to look at addresses or header information,
it looks at the contents. Something that hardly ever changes when it
comes to spam, unlike header information. Header information can be
forged, contents are pretty straightforward.
Wrong classifications with SpamBayes, 1 in over 300 detected spam. I
deal with anywhere between 200-500 emails a day. And that was easily
dealt with, just reclassified it as good with a touch of a button,
directly in Outlook.
Now that's power.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wyatt M. Portendt
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:12 AM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
MailWasher is *not* a proxy service. SpamAlert is. Your email is not
sent to
another site to be verified. It simply intercept the headers (and
optionally
the messages) at *your own server*. The addresses can be
cross-referenced to
blacklists, but the true power is in using regular expressions filtering
to
weed out what you want to bounce. It works. I've proven it with three
separate mail addresses.
Without MailWasher I had about 15-35 percent spam rate in my inbox. Now
I get
about one every two months - maybe. Since I handle about 75 to 100
emails a
day, that's pretty darned good.
On Monday 29 September 2003 09:38, you wrote:
> That's the first that I've ever heard someone getting 100%. Most of
> the time I've heard anywhere from 93 to 96%. The other thing I didn't
> like about MailWasher is the fact that it is a proxy service. I would
> rather have a solution such as SpamBayes that directly plugs into my
> Outlook.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barnstoneworth
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Weaver" <djweaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:50 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
>
> > Nope not familiar with it. I'm using SpamBayes right now. I've
> > used Mailwasher in the past, was okay, but wasn't thoroughly
> > impressed, and
> >
> > I've used K-9. K-9 did all right once trained about a 93-94%
> > accuracy
> >
> > rate (something I never achieved with MailWasher. SpamBayes is at
> > something like 98% accuracy. I'm pretty happy.
>
> That's odd regarding Mailwasher, I get 100% of all spam blocked, and I
> noticed within about 1 month that the actual amount I was getting had
> dropped dramatically.
>
> To get round the problem that James's spam solution causes I've just
> set up a mail rule to block anything from his address-the only problem
> with that is if he ever sent me a 'proper' email, I wouldn't get it
>
> Andy
>
>
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