-=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
- From: "Barnstoneworth" <barneystorm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:23:34 +0100
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Weaver" <djweaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Really? Than that has changed, because when I set it up you had to
> point your email client to it, if I remember correctly. Making it a
> proxy server, as mail went through it before your client.
>
> And let's really think about it. If you have to set filters in
> Mailwasher really what is the point? You can do the same thing in most
> Email clients, some better than others I will readily admit.
I think it depends what you are looking to do. I'm not THAT bothered about
spam-I get quite amused when I get two messages right after eaxch other
asking me if I want bigger breats then a bigger penis ;-)
I just like the idea that Mailwasher sits as a 'buffer' between my e mail
provider (s) and my inbox and I can choose what to download...
Andy
I would
> rather put in 1 to 2 days of training for Bayesian filtering, than
> having to setup rules for every new spam that comes out. K-9 took about
> 2 days to training for a 97% effective rate. SpamBayes, plugged into
> Outlook, showed it good saved mail, and a folder of spam (because I knew
> I would need it). Trained it in under 5 minutes. SpamBayes is so good,
> that it will even classify mail from the same sender as spam and
> non-spam based on its learning. So those forwarded jokes, etc, go
> directly to the spam folder (the deleted Items folder).
>
> If you want to talk "true" power, the power lies with Bayesian
> filtering. It doesn't have to look at addresses or header information,
> it looks at the contents. Something that hardly ever changes when it
> comes to spam, unlike header information. Header information can be
> forged, contents are pretty straightforward.
>
> Wrong classifications with SpamBayes, 1 in over 300 detected spam. I
> deal with anywhere between 200-500 emails a day. And that was easily
> dealt with, just reclassified it as good with a touch of a button,
> directly in Outlook.
>
> Now that's power.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wyatt M. Portendt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:12 AM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
>
>
> MailWasher is *not* a proxy service. SpamAlert is. Your email is not
> sent to
> another site to be verified. It simply intercept the headers (and
> optionally
> the messages) at *your own server*. The addresses can be
> cross-referenced to
> blacklists, but the true power is in using regular expressions filtering
> to
> weed out what you want to bounce. It works. I've proven it with three
> separate mail addresses.
>
> Without MailWasher I had about 15-35 percent spam rate in my inbox. Now
> I get
> about one every two months - maybe. Since I handle about 75 to 100
> emails a
> day, that's pretty darned good.
>
> On Monday 29 September 2003 09:38, you wrote:
> > That's the first that I've ever heard someone getting 100%. Most of
> > the time I've heard anywhere from 93 to 96%. The other thing I didn't
>
> > like about MailWasher is the fact that it is a proxy service. I would
>
> > rather have a solution such as SpamBayes that directly plugs into my
> > Outlook.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barnstoneworth
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:24 AM
> > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Weaver" <djweaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:50 PM
> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: what is this and why am I receiving it?
> >
> > > Nope not familiar with it. I'm using SpamBayes right now. I've
> > > used Mailwasher in the past, was okay, but wasn't thoroughly
> > > impressed, and
> > >
> > > I've used K-9. K-9 did all right once trained about a 93-94%
> > > accuracy
> > >
> > > rate (something I never achieved with MailWasher. SpamBayes is at
> > > something like 98% accuracy. I'm pretty happy.
> >
> > That's odd regarding Mailwasher, I get 100% of all spam blocked, and I
>
> > noticed within about 1 month that the actual amount I was getting had
> > dropped dramatically.
> >
> > To get round the problem that James's spam solution causes I've just
> > set up a mail rule to block anything from his address-the only problem
>
> > with that is if he ever sent me a 'proper' email, I wouldn't get it
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
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