RE: Auto Extend On, Increment By

Yes, I understand and that is part of the art and science and I have
gone both ways.   Filling up a tablespace is monitored, and then again
extending the datafiles for the tablespace means you have to have disk
space available.

This of course is done by montitoring free disk space which in our case
we have at least two monitoring tools on that job.  EM Grid, and
Foglight, and  as well the system administrator, as even another level
besides the DBA.

So as long as we are within a reasonable bounds of free space we are
fine.  Also we do not have large loading going on, and we are not
growing datafiles very fast.  

I can see putting a large limit on the TEMP or UNDO datafiles just in
case.  

In any event, Auto extending the files not my priority with the
question.  I am trying to get such feedback on the increment by portion
of the question.

Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
joel.patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
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904  727-2546

-----Original Message-----
From: jim.silverman@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jim.silverman@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:30 PM
To: Patterson, Joel; Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Auto Extend On, Increment By

Personally, I don't like to use AUTOEXTEND on any datafiles.  On more
than one occasion we've run into problems in which a datafile
autoextended to the point where there was no more room in the
filesystem.  As a result, the issue now included not only the database,
but the OS as well.  And, while recovering from this situation (e.g.,
moving a datafile to another filesystem) is not rocket science, it's yet
another complication in our already complicated lives.

I'd rather make use of monitors that warn us when we're close to filling
a tablespace, at which time we have the luxury of deciding how to deal
with the situation.

Just my $0.02...
===================================== 
Jim Silverman 
Senior Systems Database Administrator 
Solucient, LLC - A Thomson Company 
Telephone:   734-669-7641 
FAX:            734-930-7611 
E-Mail:         jim.silverman@xxxxxxxxxxx 
                
                From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
                Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:42 PM
                To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: Auto Extend On, Increment By
                
                I have proposed to have all datafiles on all databases
autoextend with and increment size of 1280 blocks, (10Mbs).
                
                Responses I am getting back are like: The increment
should be based on the size of the datafile and how rapidly it's
increasing in size.  How to measure growth.

                My reaction is like:  Being consistent does not mean
behavior will change in each situation.   For datafiles that do not
increase... they won't autoextend anyway.   For datafiles that do
extend, the ones that grow less will not extend very often.   One
datafile may extend once per week, and another twice a year.  You don't
have to have a 'size' that is proportional to how fast it grows.


                I'm wondering what the communities reaction is before I
respond.

                Joel Patterson 
                Database Administrator 
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