All of this is great, but in every posting one thing is missing: The name and address of the store that is selling 5th generation ATSC receivers today. Where are they? > Tom Barry wrote: > > >Craig Birkmaier wrote: > > > > > I suspect that the manufacturers are just going to see how far they > > > can push this, until the FCC decides to enforce the regulations. > > > Perhaps by Christmas, as Mark Aitken suggests, we will see more > > > models with tuners as the next generation chips begin to be available. > > > > > > Watching and waiting... > > > > > > >I suspect that a very large consideration by the manufacturers in this > >decision is the expected rate of customer returns, and that depends upon > >whether the receivers can be expected to work satisfactorily for the > >average buyer. > > > >With previous generations of chips you might expect buyers to be > >disappointed if they tried to them use only a set top antenna. > >Supposedly with the new Zenith gen 5 chips this will not be the case, > >but we don't really know yet. And we also do not know how much > >Zenith/LG will be charging for those chips. Is it more? > > > >I think the answers to the above might determine what percentage of sets > >are just monitors next year, though the push to add cable card support > >should also increase the ATSC receiver percentage. > > > >BTW, if HDTV's start appearing that really do work with set top > >antennas, I wonder if that will increase the return rate of those that > >don't since there then will be something to compare. It could create > >some de facto receiver quality standards. > > > >- Tom > > > > > Personally that is what I think will happen. There will be 5th gen > receivers and all the rest will be classified as inferior. All pre 5th > gen receivers will be devalued to ten cents on the dollar and sold on > EBAY to people in Dallas and other flat land cities where they might > still find a home. > > The "de facto receiver quality standards" as in all other products is a > factor of word of mouth. With the Internet word of mouth is almost > instantaneous. When real customers start comparing 5th gen with their > fourth gen etc it won't take long. Who will be the early adopters of 5th > gen receivers after all? Those who have problems with any current > receiver and those with the worst problems first. > > Bob Miller > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.