[opendtv] Re: Mobile DTV test


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From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sam Churchill
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 3:40 PM
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Subject: [opendtv] Re: Mobile DTV test


"I'm a consumer, not an engineer...so answer me this:

I live in an apartment downtown without cable. Why can't I get ATSC? It
doesn't work."

Given the facts as presented by you, I'd ask what kind of DTV set you have
tried in your apartment?  If you haven't tried, who told you that you
couldn't receive DTV there?

What's your elevation above ground level?  What kind of antennae have you
tried?  When was the last attempt?

"Why can't the United States duplicate the UK's success with off-the-air
FreeView on a $99 settop?"

Simple: because the U.S. government does not subsidize set tops, and because
the U.S. government does not own the predominant TV networks in the U.S.

"PLEASE tell me the reason is NOT because there were no royalty bucks for
ATSC if they adopted COFDM."

This, even as a surly question, is off-base.  There are a multitude of
reasons, but none have anything to do with the ATSC receiving royalty
checks: the ATSC is a non-profit organization supported by the contributions
of it's members, not royalty checks from anybody.

Simply put, the ATSC system is a creature of the U.S. system of
broadcasting.  The DVB system is a creature of the wildly different European
system of broadcasting.  (I don't want any crap on this:  DVB specs state
that they are the European Telecommunications Standard, or ETS.)

While there are some aspects of DVB that are interesting, particularly HM,
the network topology would NOT WORK in the U.S.  Example: nobody in the U.S.
would identify with a transmitter having an identifier for transport stream,
and a separate id for "network origination" facility.  You see, in the U.S.,
we have local tv stations: in Europe, it's largely "national" networks with
little or ZERO local content.

"Consumers aren't stupid."

I believe that you might have proved the opposite in your posting.

"ATSC screwed up."

Pray tell why?  Because they didn't adopt your uninformed choice?  Are you
just unhappy in the outcome, or could you inform us of what decisions made
by the ATSC were wrong?  (Clue:  most of your problems are with the ACATS,
not the ATSC, but who knows or cares about the difference?  Certainly not
intelligent consumers!)

"Am I missing something or am I telling the truth?"

You are missing everything, and you can't phone to someone truthful from
where you are located.  Well, I guess Lee Wood is a local call.  Why don't
you show him how you can't receive KOIN-TV?  I don't want to speak for him,
but I have yet to hear about a Portland reception case that he was not
familiar with.

John Willkie

You tell me.

Sam Churchill
Portland, OR
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> However, if the popularity of  mobile phones with cameras continues to
> explode, then it would be the natural platform for any future "portable"
> television screen.  The DVB-H standard that is being proposed is aimed at
> precisely that market.  Obviously something that the
> ATSC standard could never duplicate.
>
> Once again, Europe is ahead in the Digital Television wars.

> Cheers,
> John Shutt
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