[lit-ideas] Re: Oh, Take me to JesusLand!

From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:19:52 -0500
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> From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: 11/12/2005 11:39:53 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Oh, Take me to JesusLand!
>
> Andy:Ask yourself how you would feel if somebody threw you
> out of your house and took it for themselves while you had to live in a
> tent for refuges. Personally, I'd be pissed. Maybe even more than pissed.
> Probably a lot more than pissed.
>
> I would be more than pissed, and was: when the Nazis came into my former
> country and basically started terrorizing my neighbors, when the Russians
> came to liberate from the Nazis and then proceeded to establish their own
> dictatorship and terrorized the neighbors and just about everyone else.
>
> So, what does all this prove?  Nothing, except that we are all
> beneficiaries or victims of history.  


A.A. So why bring it up?



Defend away at the intifada but
> consider.  


A.A. I'm not defending the intifada.  I'm just looking at it from their
point of view.  The most common point of view is that they're pure evil, we
approach divine.  You like that?



The intifada has now been to some degree globalized, as I heard
> a Palestinian say a few years ago it ought to be.  If you approve of
> suicide bombing in Israel,



A.A.  I never said I approved of suicide bombings in Israel or anywhere. 
Suicide bombings are anathema.



 you must approve of it in Europe and elsewhere. 
> Attacking civilians is attacking civilians.  Everyone who does it has a
> 'good' reason.  They all just want to pick their reasons.
>


A.A.  Well said. 




> What solution would you have come up with after the British promised the
> Israelis a homeland? 



A.A.  I already told you.  Montana.  Nobody lives there except militias. 
They'd be a piece of cake compared to the Palestinians.  The few people who
live in Montana can be sent to Michigan.




 The Arabs did not do to the Jews what the Europeans
> did but there you are.  It happens to be the ancestral homeland to both
> peoples.  


A.A. So throw out one group and give it to the other.



And consider this: the only Arabs to live in a democracy in the
> Middle East are the those that reside in Israel.  


A.A. Israel is a democracy in your dreams.



So evidently they weren't
> all removed.  It seems like some million or so of them decided to stay
> hoping for a better life which they must believe they have or they would
> leave now.
>


A.A. Indeed, hope springs eternal.




> The refugee camps have been preserved and nurtured to use as future
> bargaining chips and warriors by their own leaders.  



A.A. George Bush fucked this country too.  Are you outraged about that?



Their leaders have
> squandered enormous amounts of money donated by European governments, the
> US government and millions of individuals who care about them. 


A.A. Yeah, sure, those helpful, civilized, caring Europeans.  Gotta love
'em.  Except maybe when they sort of looked the other way in Bosnia.



Their leader
> have also made themselves enormously rich at the expense of these poor
> people.


A.A. It's how wealth originates.  How do you think the English monarchy got
all those jewels and palaces?



>
> Now then, this has been the history of humanity for as long as we have
> known about ourselves.  So now, the rest of us in North America, other
than
> native Americans and native Canadians, ought to either shut up or go back
> where we came from, or where our ancestors came from.
>


A.A. Or try something different, like looking at both sides instead of
convincing one's self of one's supremacy.


Andy Amago




> Veronica
> Milford, MI 
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