Paul Stone wrote: "If you ever see a well behaved pit-bull terrier or a rotty, chances are their owners DID kick their ass when they were younger, but still big." We had a Rott/Shepherd mix that had come from a bad home. The dog was at its best when it felt that I was in control of the situation. I didn't have to kick its ass, and I am pretty sure that would have made things worse, only make it clear that I was in charge of whatever situation we were in. This dog was excellent with our oldest daughter. Katie would get a book and plonk herself down between the front paws of the dog. Imagine an 80lb Rott lying down and still towering over a toddler reading a book to him. The dog had a remarkable amount of patience for the curiosity of a toddler. When he tired of the abuse, he would slowly get up and hide in another room. I don't know if it is the breed or just this dog, but I can't imagine a better mix of protection and family pet. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html