I had written: "I will refrain from commenting on whether the Church's change of position on the sword was a good or bad thing." to which Steve Cameron replied: "Why?? Is "Convert or be incinerated," somehow defensible??" 'Convert or be incinerated' is neither defensible nor relevant. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html