I am not sure what the examples purport to show. Suburbs are hardly communities in any meaningful sense, at least in modern Western societies. (The Sadr City near Baghdad is more so, and it faces the issue of defense.) The first-century Christians were only a community in the making, and lacked any mechanisms for organized self-defense, which doesn't mean that they had no need for it. O.K. --- "Steven G. Cameron" <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > John McCreery wrote: > > > On 2004/04/19, at 15:33, Omar Kusturica wrote: > > > > > >>Yes, newly formed communities do tend to have more > at > >>stake at self-defense. > > > > > > > > Consider, for example, Levittown or Park Forest > (though, arguably, > > suburbs do not count as communities).... > > **Or first century Christians... > > TC, > > /Steve Cameron, NJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > John L. McCreery > > The Word Works, Ltd. > > 55-13-202 Miyagaya, Nishi-ku > > Yokohama, Japan 220-0006 > > > > Tel 81-45-314-9324 > > Email mccreery@xxxxxxx > > > > "Making Symbols is Our Business" > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings > (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit > www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, > vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html