[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: License issue

  • From: Greg Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:35:36 -0700

Than let’s just go back to 2.1 and be done with it.


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On May 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> John,
> 
> Eitan was the one who put liblouis under svn version control. I met him 
> at the CSUN conference three years ago. At that time he was doing some 
> work with liblouis in spanish. I'm quite sure he just wanted to update 
> the license number and didn't realize the implications.
> 
> Since the change in license was not authorized by the copyright holders, we 
> are justified in reverting to 2.1. 
> 
> Incidentally the name of my company is Abilitiessoft, Inc. It is listed 
> as jjb-software on some of the copyright notices. That too needs to be 
> changed.
> 
> John B
> 
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:15:43AM -0700, John Gardner wrote:
>> Christian and John, who is Eitan Isaacson?  I do not remember this name at 
>> all.  Of course I do not have the world's best memory.  However I will say 
>> that nobody has the right to change a copyright notice by ViewPlus and John 
>> Boyer's company without our permission, and to change it without even our 
>> knowledge is pretty heinous.
>> 
>> So before we finish this discussion on how to turn back the clock to LGPL2, 
>> please let's figure out who this man is and why he thought he had the right 
>> to do this.
>> 
>> John G
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian 
>> Egli
>> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:22 AM
>> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: License issue
>> 
>> Hi John
>> 
>> On 05/15/2014 05:00 PM, John Gardner wrote:
>>> I therefore invite anybody who has made a contribution to liblouis or 
>>> liblouisutdml since the change to LGPL3 to speak up if they object to 
>>> having their contributions distributed under LGPL2.  If anyone does object, 
>>> we must then find a way to remove those contributions.  This mailing list 
>>> reaches nearly everybody interested in liblouis, and it would therefore be 
>>> considered a good faith effort to reach everybody if ever challenged in a 
>>> court.
>> 
>> I looked at the history of the source code and I noticed that Eitan Isaacson 
>> changed the license from GPLv2 to LGPLv3 on March 31st 2008, i.e. 6 years 
>> ago 
>> (https://github.com/liblouis/liblouis/commit/2723ada19c52737ecfc09bf340ba422569192a17).
>>  
>> He also changed the notice at the top of compileTranslationTable.c. The 
>> other C files were left at GPLv2. I don't know when they changed.
>> 
>> So we would have to go back 6 years, checking all the contributions, getting 
>> all the permissions from the authors, etc. This seems like a lot of work. 
>> Just to change from LGPLv3 to LGPLv2.
>> 
>> Could we maybe get the big corp lawyers sit together with the lawyers from 
>> the Free Software Foundation (the authors of the LGPL) and have them sort 
>> their problems out. From where I sit both licenses look pretty similar. They 
>> are still both the LGPL. I need to have a better idea what we really gain 
>> from all this work.
>> 
>> For the record I think that (at least from my pov as a developer) LGPLv3 is 
>> an improvement over LGPLv2. Amongst others it enhances compatibility with 
>> other licenses.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Christian
>> 
>> --
>> Christian Egli
>> Swiss Library for the Blind, Visually Impaired and Print Disabled 
>> Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland
>> 
>> 
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