> I understand that MacStumbler already supports them. I haven't >had a chance to confirm this or not, as I have not disassembled my >PowerBook G4 so that I could disable my built-in Airport card. Yes, MacStumbler works with the Broadcom/Apple card on my machine (12" PBG4, OS X.2.6) However, because it does a "probe" request, it can be detected. Also, it's not actually actively scanning, like Kismac does. It's just sending probe requests and logging what comes back to it. You can be connected to a network and scan with MacStumbler. I've run MacStumbler along side my friend running Kismac on his iBook, and I show up as "Probe" and that's annoying. Also, MacStumbler is severely lacking in features, like data packet capturing, GPS support, WEP cracking tools (the list goes on and on) I really wish there was some way for me to get Mick the information he needed to write a Broadcom driver for Kismac. -- Andrew Koch Website: http://www.lildobe.net Maintain thy airspeed lest the earth shall rise up and smite thee!