Again, from what you say below, it doesn't sound like it was an SRA he was asking for. A pilot cannot set up any procedures for an SRA as all he does is fly the approach ask directed by the controller. For an SRA a controller needs to have the approach centreline up on the radar display and an SRA chart showing the heights and distances on the approach. You vector the aircraft onto final as normal but then continue with heading instructions to keep the aircraft on the centreline. You also give the aircraft height checks every half mile so he can check his descent profile. At 2nm (sometimes 0.5nm depending on the radar type) you terminate the approach and the pilot has to land or go around depending on whether he can see the runway or not. An SRA is a tricky procedure because it puts control directly into the hands of the controller. If you get it wrong you can literally talk the aircraft into the ground - which is why we practise it for months before doing an SRA for real. The procedure involves quite specific radio instructions which can be found in CAP413. Because the procedure requires constant radio instructions from the controller it is usually done on a separate frequency as you do not have the time to talk to other aircraft. Indeed the talkdown for a half mile SRA is continuous and the controller doesn't release the transmit key from the time the aircraft gets onto final until the talkdown is terminated. It's been so long since I did an SRA that I doubt I could do one properly now - it takes a few before the patter comes back properly. bones bones@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of F FISHER Sent: 15 October 2009 17:26 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: SRA Gerry What was upsetting him was that every time he tried to set up the procedures, FSX crashed, and he wanted to make sure that I was qualified to do SRA, so that he could do the practise,and hopefully complete it before FSX crashed again. With my hours on control, it should not be difficult to just sit there and watch, I did not know I had to be qualified. Frank F