[jhb] Re: SRA
- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:36:15 +0100
Half decent is the right phrase to use too. You get extremely rusty if you
haven't done an SRA for a while and during periods of good weather you may
not do one for months. That is why we used to ask aircraft "Can you accept
an SRA for controller purposes?". Most thought it was for training but
sometimes it was simply necessary to retain the skills.
If I tried one now I would be absolutely goldfish..
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Phil Reynolds
Sent: 19 October 2009 19:50
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: SRA
I must admit to only knowing the very basics of the SRA procedure but is
the sort of thing that whets my appetite for getting back into the ATC
chair (been out of it for what seems ages now). I might have to give it
a go sometime soon if I can get a half decent mentor (wonder who would
fit the bill there then <g>)
Phil
Fossil wrote:
> Indeed.
>
> An SRA is a joint procedure and responsibilities are shared between the
> controller and pilot. With an ILS or other procedural types of approach
the
> captain remains responsible for all navigation and is solely in command of
> the approach. With an SRA the controller becomes responsible for
centreline
> guidance and passes altitude/height advisories to the pilot to enable him
to
> calculate his rate of descent. The pilot is still responsible for working
> out his MDH and MAP so he still needs the plates in front of him.
>
> An SRA in FS is tame by comparison to real life. FS doesn't suffer from
> sudden winds shifts or eddies from nearby hills and it doesn't emulate the
> wind backing and decreasing as you descend. In real life you cannot give
the
> pilot a single good heading to keep him on the centreline - it is constant
> heading changes during the descent. In nasty weather it is a real battle
to
> keep the aircraft on track.
>
> I never had the chance to use a PAR which gave the controller vertical
> guidance as well. PAR's were withdrawn just after I started in ATC
although
> Dublin kept their system going for a few years longer. I think the civil
use
> of PAR's was stopped after a couple of accidents.
>
> bones
> bones@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of F FISHER
> Sent: 19 October 2009 17:23
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: SRA
>
> Peter
>
> I suspect a pilot also needs to know the procedure as well, that I myself
do
>
> not.
>
> Frank F
>
>
>
>
>
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