It's an HP laptop with conexent integrated sound or something like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install > GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your puter? > and > Ann, what have you got. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install > > >> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have >> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with > fuzzy >> speech. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install >> >> >> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last. >> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments >> > who >> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do you >> > mean >> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you >> > cannot >> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software >> > program? >> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow, >> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what >> > your >> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can we >> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and >> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound? >> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are >> > you >> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made to >> > pipe >> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me >> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance > usage >> > it >> > seems to require. >> > >> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something quite > odd >> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems. Glen >> > from >> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some list >> > about >> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the > bottom >> > of what might be going on. >> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98 > machine, >> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound card > I >> > think it is, >> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did >> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital audio >> > sound >> > card. >> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp box, >> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same > nice >> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when >> > running >> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation. >> > >> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end, was >> > that >> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers, > handled >> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of the >> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it. >> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was >> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually > seemingly >> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but did > so >> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the >> > undesirable, >> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally >> > tends >> > to >> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to > remove >> > those. >> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the >> > eloquence >> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be >> > output >> > at >> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when >> > compared >> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I > think >> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz, and >> > jaws >> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box. >> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks, to > do >> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the, > "fuzzyness," >> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to describe, > is >> > a >> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more > like >> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts > thrown >> > in on top. >> > >> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that the >> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is >> > forcing >> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to > 22.khz, >> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their >> > puters >> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking >> > to >> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a > guess. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install >> > >> > >> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to > Jeff's >> > message. >> >> Hi, >> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on >> >> Scratch >> > Live >> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and >> > restart >> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station. Fuzz >> > sound >> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot. >> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded > and >> >> saved >> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had a >> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and XP >> > were >> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub > folders. >> > I >> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than > custom. >> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use > Jaws >> > key >> >> and nothing speaks. >> >> Do you know if I need to install differently? >> >> Any help is appreciated. >> >> Ann >> >> >> >> __________ >> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com >> >> >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> >> > >> > __________ >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository > http://jawsscripts.com >> > >> > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > >> > >> >> __________ >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > > __________ > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts