[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 15:24:36 -0400
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the heads up. I have not downloaded the last build on this PC
but did on my other PC. I'll download right now.
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike O'Brien" <mike23432@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
> Hi Ann
>
> With JAWS 10 build 1142, you don't have to disable one sound card to get
> JAWS to use another. In the JAWS Utilities menu is an item labeled Sound
> Cards Submenu, where you can choose which sound card installed on your
> system you want JAWS to use. I believe this submenu was introduced in
> JAWS
> 10 build 1139, but was not in the original JAWS 10 release.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ann Medlar
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:59 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
> Hi all,
> Well I have a fairly new PC. I just heard from my friend who assisted in
> the assembly and he says:
> You must disable the sound card that you do not want JAWS to use in device
> manager, there-for it should always default to the enabled sound card.
> Then
> you re-enable the second sound card to use with your Music software.
> I have no idea how to do this.
> Some stats about sound on my desktop:
> Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
> Manufacturer Analog Devices
> Status OK
> PNP Device ID
> HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_1984&SUBSYS_10280211&REV_1004\4&178DEBBC&0&0001
> Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\adihdaud.sys (5.10.01.5450 built by:
> WinDDK, 299.00 KB (306,176 bytes), 10/24/2007 11:59 PM)
>
> Name USB Audio Device
> Manufacturer (Generic USB Audio)
> Status OK
> PNP Device ID USB\VID_06E6&PID_C200&MI_01\7&32748AEC&0&0001
> Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbaudio.sys (5.1.2600.5512
> (xpsp.080413-2108), 58.63 KB (60,032 bytes), 5/8/2009 1:53 PM)
>
> Name Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
> Manufacturer Creative Technology Ltd.
> Status OK
> PNP Device ID
> PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10121102&REV_00\4&210641D0&0&00F0
> I/O Port 0x0000CCE0-0x0000CCFF
> IRQ Channel IRQ 16
> Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\p17xfi.sys (5.12.01.617, 1.12 MB
> (1,173,504 bytes), 12/7/2007 1:06 PM)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>>I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am just
>> curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want to use
>> a
>> second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically directed
>> JAWS
>> to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the music.
>> I
>> would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to headphones
>> would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the DJ
>> program from distorting JAWS.
>>
>> Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or the
>> situation.
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your puter?
>>> and
>>> Ann, what have you got.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have
>>>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with
>>> fuzzy
>>>> speech.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments
>>>> > who
>>>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do
>>>> > you
>>>> > mean
>>>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you
>>>> > cannot
>>>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software
>>>> > program?
>>>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what
>>>> > your
>>>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can
>>>> > we
>>>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and
>>>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are
>>>> > you
>>>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made
>>>> > to
>>>> > pipe
>>>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me
>>>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance
>>> usage
>>>> > it
>>>> > seems to require.
>>>> >
>>>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something
>>>> > quite
>>> odd
>>>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems.
>>>> > Glen
>>>> > from
>>>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some
>>>> > list
>>>> > about
>>>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the
>>> bottom
>>>> > of what might be going on.
>>>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98
>>> machine,
>>>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound
>>>> > card
>>> I
>>>> > think it is,
>>>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did
>>>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital
>>>> > audio
>>>> > sound
>>>> > card.
>>>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp
>>>> > box,
>>>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same
>>> nice
>>>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when
>>>> > running
>>>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>>> >
>>>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end,
>>>> > was
>>>> > that
>>>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers,
>>> handled
>>>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of
>>>> > the
>>>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was
>>>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>>> seemingly
>>>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but
>>>> > did
>>> so
>>>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>>> > undesirable,
>>>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally
>>>> > tends
>>>> > to
>>>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to
>>> remove
>>>> > those.
>>>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>>> > eloquence
>>>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be
>>>> > output
>>>> > at
>>>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when
>>>> > compared
>>>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I
>>> think
>>>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz,
>>>> > and
>>>> > jaws
>>>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks,
>>>> > to
>>> do
>>>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>>> "fuzzyness,"
>>>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to
>>>> > describe,
>>> is
>>>> > a
>>>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more
>>> like
>>>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts
>>> thrown
>>>> > in on top.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that
>>>> > the
>>>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>>>> > forcing
>>>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to
>>> 22.khz,
>>>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their
>>>> > puters
>>>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking
>>>> > to
>>>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a
>>> guess.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to
>>> Jeff's
>>>> > message.
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>>>> >> Scratch
>>>> > Live
>>>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and
>>>> > restart
>>>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station.
>>>> >> Fuzz
>>>> > sound
>>>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded
>>> and
>>>> >> saved
>>>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and
>>>> >> XP
>>>> > were
>>>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
>>> folders.
>>>> > I
>>>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than
>>> custom.
>>>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use
>>> Jaws
>>>> > key
>>>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>>> >> Ann
>>>> >>
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