[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "Mike O'Brien" <mike23432@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:54:32 -0400
Hi Ann
With JAWS 10 build 1142, you don't have to disable one sound card to get
JAWS to use another. In the JAWS Utilities menu is an item labeled Sound
Cards Submenu, where you can choose which sound card installed on your
system you want JAWS to use. I believe this submenu was introduced in JAWS
10 build 1139, but was not in the original JAWS 10 release.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ann Medlar
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:59 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
Hi all,
Well I have a fairly new PC. I just heard from my friend who assisted in
the assembly and he says:
You must disable the sound card that you do not want JAWS to use in device
manager, there-for it should always default to the enabled sound card. Then
you re-enable the second sound card to use with your Music software.
I have no idea how to do this.
Some stats about sound on my desktop:
Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Manufacturer Analog Devices
Status OK
PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_1984&SUBSYS_10280211&REV_1004\4&178DEBBC&0&0001
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\adihdaud.sys (5.10.01.5450 built by:
WinDDK, 299.00 KB (306,176 bytes), 10/24/2007 11:59 PM)
Name USB Audio Device
Manufacturer (Generic USB Audio)
Status OK
PNP Device ID USB\VID_06E6&PID_C200&MI_01\7&32748AEC&0&0001
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbaudio.sys (5.1.2600.5512
(xpsp.080413-2108), 58.63 KB (60,032 bytes), 5/8/2009 1:53 PM)
Name Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Manufacturer Creative Technology Ltd.
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10121102&REV_00\4&210641D0&0&00F0
I/O Port 0x0000CCE0-0x0000CCFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\p17xfi.sys (5.12.01.617, 1.12 MB
(1,173,504 bytes), 12/7/2007 1:06 PM)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am just
> curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want to use
> a
> second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically directed
> JAWS
> to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the music.
> I
> would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to headphones
> would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the DJ
> program from distorting JAWS.
>
> Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or the
> situation.
>
> Don Marang
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your puter?
>> and
>> Ann, what have you got.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have
>>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with
>> fuzzy
>>> speech.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments
>>> > who
>>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do you
>>> > mean
>>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you
>>> > cannot
>>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software
>>> > program?
>>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what
>>> > your
>>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can
>>> > we
>>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and
>>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are
>>> > you
>>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made
>>> > to
>>> > pipe
>>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me
>>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance
>> usage
>>> > it
>>> > seems to require.
>>> >
>>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something quite
>> odd
>>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems.
>>> > Glen
>>> > from
>>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some list
>>> > about
>>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the
>> bottom
>>> > of what might be going on.
>>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98
>> machine,
>>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound
>>> > card
>> I
>>> > think it is,
>>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did
>>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital audio
>>> > sound
>>> > card.
>>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp box,
>>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same
>> nice
>>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when
>>> > running
>>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>> >
>>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end, was
>>> > that
>>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers,
>> handled
>>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of the
>>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was
>>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>> seemingly
>>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but did
>> so
>>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>> > undesirable,
>>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally
>>> > tends
>>> > to
>>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to
>> remove
>>> > those.
>>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>> > eloquence
>>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be
>>> > output
>>> > at
>>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when
>>> > compared
>>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I
>> think
>>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz,
>>> > and
>>> > jaws
>>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks, to
>> do
>>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>> "fuzzyness,"
>>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to describe,
>> is
>>> > a
>>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more
>> like
>>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts
>> thrown
>>> > in on top.
>>> >
>>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that
>>> > the
>>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>>> > forcing
>>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to
>> 22.khz,
>>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their
>>> > puters
>>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking
>>> > to
>>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a
>> guess.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to
>> Jeff's
>>> > message.
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>>> >> Scratch
>>> > Live
>>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and
>>> > restart
>>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station. Fuzz
>>> > sound
>>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded
>> and
>>> >> saved
>>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had a
>>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and
>>> >> XP
>>> > were
>>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
>> folders.
>>> > I
>>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than
>> custom.
>>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use
>> Jaws
>>> > key
>>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>> >> Ann
>>> >>
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