[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:32:43 -0400
I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am just
curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want to use a
second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically directed JAWS
to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the music. I
would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to headphones
would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the DJ
program from distorting JAWS.
Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or the
situation.
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your puter?
> and
> Ann, what have you got.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have
>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with
> fuzzy
>> speech.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments
>> > who
>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do you
>> > mean
>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you
>> > cannot
>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software
>> > program?
>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what
>> > your
>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can we
>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and
>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are
>> > you
>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made to
>> > pipe
>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me
>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance
> usage
>> > it
>> > seems to require.
>> >
>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something quite
> odd
>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems. Glen
>> > from
>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some list
>> > about
>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the
> bottom
>> > of what might be going on.
>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98
> machine,
>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound card
> I
>> > think it is,
>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did
>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital audio
>> > sound
>> > card.
>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp box,
>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same
> nice
>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when
>> > running
>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>> >
>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end, was
>> > that
>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers,
> handled
>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of the
>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was
>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
> seemingly
>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but did
> so
>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>> > undesirable,
>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally
>> > tends
>> > to
>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to
> remove
>> > those.
>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>> > eloquence
>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be
>> > output
>> > at
>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when
>> > compared
>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I
> think
>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz, and
>> > jaws
>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks, to
> do
>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
> "fuzzyness,"
>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to describe,
> is
>> > a
>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more
> like
>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts
> thrown
>> > in on top.
>> >
>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that the
>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>> > forcing
>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to
> 22.khz,
>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their
>> > puters
>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking
>> > to
>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a
> guess.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>> >
>> >
>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to
> Jeff's
>> > message.
>> >> Hi,
>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>> >> Scratch
>> > Live
>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and
>> > restart
>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station. Fuzz
>> > sound
>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded
> and
>> >> saved
>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had a
>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and XP
>> > were
>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
> folders.
>> > I
>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than
> custom.
>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use
> Jaws
>> > key
>> >> and nothing speaks.
>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>> >> Ann
>> >>
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