[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:13:39 -0400
The hardware that you have to use with ScratchLive acts as the sound card
for the music and the regular sound card handles Jaws.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am just
> curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want to use
> a
> second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically directed
> JAWS
> to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the music.
> I
> would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to headphones
> would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the DJ
> program from distorting JAWS.
>
> Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or the
> situation.
>
> Don Marang
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your puter?
>> and
>> Ann, what have you got.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have
>>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with
>> fuzzy
>>> speech.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments
>>> > who
>>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do you
>>> > mean
>>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you
>>> > cannot
>>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software
>>> > program?
>>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what
>>> > your
>>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can
>>> > we
>>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and
>>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are
>>> > you
>>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made
>>> > to
>>> > pipe
>>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me
>>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance
>> usage
>>> > it
>>> > seems to require.
>>> >
>>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something quite
>> odd
>>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems.
>>> > Glen
>>> > from
>>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some list
>>> > about
>>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the
>> bottom
>>> > of what might be going on.
>>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98
>> machine,
>>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound
>>> > card
>> I
>>> > think it is,
>>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did
>>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital audio
>>> > sound
>>> > card.
>>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp box,
>>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same
>> nice
>>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when
>>> > running
>>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>> >
>>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end, was
>>> > that
>>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers,
>> handled
>>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of the
>>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was
>>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>> seemingly
>>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but did
>> so
>>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>> > undesirable,
>>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally
>>> > tends
>>> > to
>>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to
>> remove
>>> > those.
>>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>> > eloquence
>>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be
>>> > output
>>> > at
>>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when
>>> > compared
>>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I
>> think
>>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz,
>>> > and
>>> > jaws
>>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks, to
>> do
>>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>> "fuzzyness,"
>>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to describe,
>> is
>>> > a
>>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more
>> like
>>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts
>> thrown
>>> > in on top.
>>> >
>>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that
>>> > the
>>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>>> > forcing
>>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to
>> 22.khz,
>>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their
>>> > puters
>>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking
>>> > to
>>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a
>> guess.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to
>> Jeff's
>>> > message.
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>>> >> Scratch
>>> > Live
>>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and
>>> > restart
>>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station. Fuzz
>>> > sound
>>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded
>> and
>>> >> saved
>>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had a
>>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and
>>> >> XP
>>> > were
>>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
>> folders.
>>> > I
>>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than
>> custom.
>>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use
>> Jaws
>>> > key
>>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>> >> Ann
>>> >>
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