RE: OT: Why Friends Don't Let Friends use RBLs
- From: "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 16:56:04 +1000
and?
Its still down to the fact that the admin of the mail server chose to use a
power trippin' RBL. I've culled a few out of my RBL hosts.
I've been saying all through this thread that yes there are those out there -
If everyone was super-happy-fun-loving then we wouldn't have the fscking
problem with spam in the first place!
There is no blanket solution.
Anthony.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> Sorry, Anthony; it's not even close to that simple.
> There are RBL's that are simple "power-trippin'".
> While the majority of them are trying to provide a useful
> service, many of them are simply "adding to the list".
>
> Jim Harrison
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> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:40:07 +1000
> "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:22
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Why Friends Don't Let Friends use RBLs
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> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Ha! You got me there. Still, for a biz like mine, I depend
> on a lot of
> > unsolicited offers from companies that don't necessarily
> pay attention
> > to the RBL'er of the day. A single lost message could cost me
> > big time.
> > A lot of "normal" people (unlike us) figure that everyone gets their
> > mail and if you don't answer it, you're not interested. It
> > wouldn't take
> > too many of those experiences before I'd come after the
> RBL'er with a
> > score to settle. ;-)
>
> How can you possibly go after the RBL provider? The RBL
> provider is simply providing a list of IP's/Domain's that
> they have considered (by whatever methods - and I DONT agree
> with all of them) but the blocking is being done by the mail
> servers administrator(s).
>
> Spam is a problem, its not going to go away with the current
> methods of use, so filtering by whatever means is the only
> viable option - the challenge/response method definately has
> its merits, except when you have two different
> challenge/response systems in place, blocking any chance of
> either the sender or recipient from getting the challenge.
>
> I'm in an easy position where we don't have unknown clients
> attempting to reach us, contact is initiated outbound, or we
> know about any inbound email addresses (plus dealing with
> large corporates helps too :)
>
> Each to their own etc. ;)
>
> Anthony.
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