1. YES 2. Absolutely Brilliant argumentaion Paul!...I think ...yes......you just may have this one all wraped up..umm..lets see..... Others have not come to an agreement on my definition, as such "must therefore be deprecated".....Kinda like saying since the equivalence principle of relativity was a privet definition of Einstein’s,….. thus "must therefore be deprecated" !? ..some one had to agree with it at some point even if most rejected it......Hey Paul, what defines and constitutes a rotation is the point and question at hand?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I have no doubt you & others have not agreed to the arguments i put forward.....But my definition is demonstratable, reproducible and is applicable to every rotation ever produced...and oh yea..does not depend on counting the same motion twice or failing to distinguish between various motions...that is the power of that definition......feel the power yet? Your argument against my argument thus far is the fact that Google & MS do not disagree but you feel they do not have a consensus or concur on it either...ummmm??? Yes, Paul that is a definition I coined..make no mistake about where it came from!...If you don’t like my argument then, demonstrate the flaw......, don’t just quote the ignorant masses .........we already know they did not make that "discovery" !?!? I will concede that I and only I did and could have “performed so such great a wonder" (echo...echo) ...?! Dealing with the arguments for or against what constitutes rotation and how that relates to the earth moon system is the task at hand.......There is no need to tell us that you don’t like it; you don’t agree; Google cant find it; others may or may not agree….we already know that!!!! Thus, the necessity for discovery , examinations & argumentation...........ummmm ...............I knew we were here for some reason I just could not put my finger on it...lol --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Moon Rotation` To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 11:43 AM Allen D I'll look at this tomorrow but in the meantime -- in one word (where that one word is a subset of 'yes/no') -- are the laws of physics the same at all points in the universe? Paul D PS I Googled "progressive radial oreintaion to a common point" and got zero hits. After correcting the spelling errors to get "progressive radial orientation to a common point" I got eight hits -- all at www.freelists.org/archives/geocentrism, the 'snippets' of which all exhibited spelling errors characteristic of Allen Daves. I believe that I am entitled to believe that this is a private definition of rotation held by Allen Daves. I then Googled "define:rotation". After rejecting references to tires on cars, conduct of card games, games of pool and agricultural practise etc, none of the definitions on offer agreed with that offered by Allen Daves. I am therefore forced to the conclusion that "progressive radial orientation to a common point" is not an agreed definition of 'rotation' and must therefore be deprecated. Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter Now