[geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:30:19 +1000
That actually is another proof I missed paul.. If the moon lost its primary,
the earth, it would move off tangentally in a straight line, and it would keep
its same rotation of 28 days for the Helioman and 24 hours for the geoman..
This could be easily done on the kitchen table, by simply doubling the orbit
diameter on the model, where in the moon would no longer show the same face,
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Deema
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:03 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
Allen D
I'd ask you if the rubber band will twist except that I have no doubt that it
would end up in the same basket with your failure to address the matter of
whether the red 1 kg mass or the green 1 kg mass would be in front at
perihelion; whether the Moon would rotate on its axis subsequent to the tragic
disappearance of its primary at superior conjunction (or indeed at any other
time); and your pathetic avoidance of the problem of the two cylinders, to wit
"...I would be able to deduce by virtue of the fact i could know beforehand
what was really moving before I got in it.."
As far as I am concerned -- you can go back to sleep.
Paul D
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From: "allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November, 2008 3:34:45 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Moon Rotation
Your arguments are a joke!..where is the moons majic ruber band ?...for
that matter where is the moons majic rubber band's point of reference in the
universe for it's majic ruber band?. The earth..well no ..coz the only
progresive radial oreintaion that any poin on the moon makes lay in the earth
....so where is this point of reference you attach your majic ruber band
too?!.....Hey , fellas.......any absolute RF is a GU postion not AC!?...
"As has been mentioned previously by others, it doesn't make a jot of
difference what you believe, or what others believe -- what matters is what is."
Yea I think i have pointed this out once or twice......
What point on the moon can you show a progressive radial orientation to
a some other point that lay in the moon itself rather then at the
earth..........oh that’s right ...you can't ...coz it don’t exist in
reality!....it only exist in your magical world of ridiculous
imagination..........Even Regner did not agree with you?!
I dont think we have to answer your imafinary follishness until you can
answer a simple question about realilty.........You guys are confusing
yourselfs with your own logic( lack therofe) and you dont have a proper
understanding of what rotaion is ...real, reproducable, demonstratable rotaion
in the real world not majic ruber bands and nonsense!
--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 10:59 PM
Bernie B
Well done -- no equivocation!
I've added to the drawing. There is now a rubber band fitted
between two hooks on the bottom of the ball and two hooks on a fixed object
mounted below the centre of the thin, circular metal rod.
I now ask you another question. If the ball is propelled
around the circle, will the rubber band show twisting? Further, will the
twisting not be in fact, one twist for each and every trip the ball makes
around the circle?
In another post this thread -- From philip madsen Mon Nov 24
21:36:28 2008, he has presented you with excellent advice. Study it, understand
it. It is the truth.
In another post this thread -- From Bernie Brauer Mon Nov 24
15:39:38 2008, you said -
It actually also works against heliocentrists because
who could believe their synchronized Moon rotation
explanation?
The odds are way against that type of order in an exploding
universe.
As has been mentioned previously by others, it doesn't make a
jot of difference what you believe, or what others believe -- what matters is
what is. Arguments about how many teeth a horse might have is not the way to
go. The way to go is to go and count them. Well metaphorically speaking, so far
as the phenomenon of synchronised orbits of moons is concerned, the teeth have
been counted. Most of the large moons in the solar system have their rotations
synchronised with their revolutions. Even further, there is one planet which
has an orbit where the rotation is synchronised with the revolution though it
is not 1:1 but rather 1.5:1. I'll not spoil your joy of discovery though --
you'll be thrilled to discover it for yourself.
Paul D
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From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 24 November, 2008 3:19:47 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
Paul,
Yes, that looks like a fair representation.
"All rigid body movements are rotations, translations,
or combinations of the two."
So the movement of the Moon is a translation, but there
is no rotation. The Moon is fixed within the rotating
firmament.
Bernie
--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Paul Deema
<paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 11:56 PM
Bernie B
You said to Philip -- From Bernie Brauer Sat Nov 22
07:58:12 2008
If you go dwon to your local day-care centre (
where toddlers get dropped off so mummie can go to work to help daddy pay 66%
ALL-TOTAL taxation ) you will see a toy where you can slide a wooden sphere
along a circular thin metal rod. So the sphere is fixed upon the circular rod
and the same point always shows inward.
I have attached an illustration of what I think you
have described but with the small addition of a straight, thin, light, paper
tube attached to the wooden ball so as to indicate visually that it always
points to the centre. The ball -- with the indicator -- is shown travelling
around the circular rod in a clock-wise direction.
Is this a fair representation? Please indicate any
reservations or arguments you may have.
Paul D
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