[geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
- From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:58:12 -0800 (PST)
Philip,
If you go dwon to your local day-care centre ( where toddlers get
dropped off so mummie can go to work to help daddy pay
66% ALL-TOTAL taxation ) you will see a toy where you can slide
a wooden sphere along a circular thin metal rod. So the sphere
is fixed upon the circular rod and the same point always shows
inward.
"The sun's path, fixed within the rotating firmament... " NJ
I still remember and have have memorized exactly 30 words from
my grade 8 high school math class about the different kinds of movement.
Let me think what were those words again?.... Ah yes they were:
In Euclidean geometry, a translation is moving every point a constant distance
in a specified direction. It is one of the rigid motions ( other rigid motions
include rotation and reflection ).
Bernie
--- On Fri, 11/21/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 11:00 PM
We have knocked this argument on the head by laboratory /kitchen experiment
before. The moon rotates.. As regards the two systems , in geostatic , the
moon would have to rotate 24 revs per day.. In the helio system it rotates
once every "month".. The 5% poses no problem , not to me or any ordinary
astronomer.
check the archives.. Allen refuses to accept a simple geometric answer for
which we have to thank Regner when he explained translation with and without
rotation.
If the moon did not rotate at all, ie it kept one face to a single star or any
fixed point, . then as it orbited the earth we would have to see its whole
surface in the course of one orbit.
It would appear to us to be rotating.. this is another example of what you see
is not what you got....and none of it effects the geo position
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bernie Brauer
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:28 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Moon Rotation
Question: In Geocentrism/Geostatic, does the Moon rotate?
Answer: "Putting a hundred things that factor in aside, the central fact which
both geo and helio models must accommodate is that the same side of the moon (
plus c. 5% as I recall ) is all we ever see from the Earth. All kinds of
phenomena could enter into producing that extra 5% ( Harvest and Hunter Moon
variations; the 31,000 mile in and out spiral every two weeks; some kind of
inclination constant; etc. ) so I don’t pretend to have that worked out. It
just seems to me that the answer is basically “no” with some kind of a partial
rotation incorporated in each revolution which would accommodate—or allow to be
seen—the extra 5% movement without continuing to rotate.
Anyway, the same face reality remains and is something that both models have to
accommodate. The helio accommodation is forced to abandon all observational
evidence and embrace three major assumptions in order to fabricate a
mathematical model which must continually lay on a montage of assumptions for
every claim it makes to achieve the stages to the Kabbalic Big Bang “creation
scenario”.
The first two assumptions are that the Earth rotates and that it orbits the sun
( which must stop its observed orbit around the Earth ). But these alone simply
can not and do not work without the third assumption; namely, that the Moon’s
direction must be reversed from what is observed. And, of course, its speed
must be adjusted so that it will accommodate what is actually seen.
I don’t think one person—even “educated” persons—in a thousand realizes that
the Copernican Mathematical Model could not work unless the Moon’s direction is
reversed so that it goes the opposite of what is seen. This is not science!
Science ( scire ) means “to know”. If we don’t know what we see and what we see
never changes ( east to west ) is the truth, then we can never know anything
and “science” has no meaning. Contrariwise, if we say we know what we see and
has never changed is the truth because a mathematical model can give us a way
of denying what we see, then, clearly, we can never truly know anything but
invented/created mathematical theory and no true “science” can exist. This is
the Pharisee way with its Kabbalic “wisdom” which uses witchcraft to make lies
into truths with its “relativity” and all the rest.
God will not let His Word come back void, but it will accomplish what it says .
. . namely, SUN, STAND THOU STILL, and all the rest . . . The Bible and
Christ-killing Pharisee Religion’s Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm is a
supernaturally empowered clever counterfeit of the truth, and heliocentricity
is both its keystone and its Achilles Heel. Marshall Hall
Answer: Think about every rotation you can observe
. . . it is nothing more than a single point that has a progressive radial
orientation to a common
point . . . now look on the Moon . . . take any fixed point on the Moon . . .
the only progressive radial orientation made by any fixed point on the Moon is
to a common point that lay outside the Moon . . . thus the Moon does not rotate
it orbits . . . a rotation is a progressive radial orientaion to a common point
that lay internal of the object in rotation . . . i.e. the center of a record,
drill any hole you want to in it . . . all rotation will be around that point
that lay inside the record itself . . . where in an orbit the only common point
that any other point on the Moon can make a progressive radial orientation to
is at the Earth not the
Moon . . . orbit common point outside the body in question . . . rotation =
common point internal to the body in question . . . the Moon orbits it most
certainly does not rotate. Allen Daves
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