NCP is the National Country Party NEP is a German political party I think........... ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:17 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnitude of scale Paul, By 'NCP' (in your question at the bottom), I assume that you mean 'NEP' ? Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:35:02 +0000 (GMT) To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnitude of scale Allen D Your response to my addendum - What i said was right ..?..Each or both of earth's rotations in HC/AC are about "an (singular) axis..?....There are two rotataions, each one is on and has it's own axis(singular)..each individual axis is differnent from the other axis. The two axis are not equivilent, in that they are not in the same direction. However, they are both the exact same mechanical action/motion (rotation about "an axis"[singular]) using the exact same stars and exact same camera..and thus must produce the exact same observable effects... Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen D One point I made was not sufficiently defined. I said in my earlier post - I can perceive only one axis of rotation -- The reason I perceive only one axis of rotation is because that is what your statement said - no differenece same action (rotaion about an axis) same stars, Notice that -- "... an axis ..." . 'an' axis is one axis -- not two, not many. Paul D OK The second thing we have reached agreement upon then is that in the heliocentric model, the Earth both rotates about its Geographical Polar Axis (which extended becomes the Celestial Polar Axis) once per sidereal day and revolves in its orbit around the Ecliptic Pole once in 365.25 days while in the geocentric model, the Earth is stationary and the stars rotate around the Geographical Polar Axis (which extended becomes the Celestial Polar Axis) once per sidereal day but no other motion. If you agree to this, will you then proceed to answer my question (restated with amendment) - At this time, I pose the question, in the heliocentric model -- what would be the effect of changing the Earth's attitude so as to bring its axis of rotation -- its Geographical Polar Axis -- into alignment with the Ecliptic Polar Axis? I suggest that, in the heliocentric scenario, the effect of this change would be to make the NCP the new focus of nightly star trails, all other conditions previously agreed remaining true. And that's it for tonight/morning. Paul D ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- National Bingo Night. Play along for the chance to win $10,000 every week. Download your gamecard now at Yahoo!7 TV. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:47 PM