Dear Neville, I have a question regarding the rotation time. The World takes 23h 56m 4.091s to rotate once about its axis. From where do we get a measurement of time that is not related exactly to the time of the Earth's rotation? Whys is there a 4 min. difference. This has always been a puzzle to me. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnitude of scale Are we all agreed so far? Neville Not entirely sure yet.. Neville said, 3. The World takes 23h 56m 4.091s to rotate once about its axis. I am no math person, but instinct tells me that the 4 minutes is taken off because of the increment of rotation needed to be caught up, due to the alleged orbiting of the earth. It is not specifically the true spin rate. It is 24 hours from sun rise to sun rise. Therefore in the HC scene, as the sun is stationary, the real rotation is once in 24 hours.. the other figure is a mathmatical compute to justify the differential in observation of the other stars caused by the orbit al change in location. Like I said.. Its only instinctive.. but I saw a diagram once somewhere. And someone has to answer the connundrum I gave to Allen re the moon, and what IS spin. Philip.