[geocentrism] Gary asked for it.

  • From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:30:08 +1000

Ok You asked for my belief to be clarified.   Here it is. 
The Bible is for me open to interpretation in many of its aspects. Thus I can 
be changed in my view of some things given sufficient evidence. 

However where the Church has authoritively DEFINED, as quite distinct from mere 
theological opinion , an unterpretation as a matter of dogma, then any evidence 
no matter what or how convincing it is, must be suspected, nay more than that, 
must be rejected, as having any validity, and I would consider it as error, and 
that we would have to look for another physical answer for the evidence we 
observe. 

If I am wrong in this then not only does the Church lose its credibility, but 
the words of Jesus Christ Himself, and the Bible as well all go down the 
drain... So I know that cannot happen. 

In relation to our subject, the immobility of this world, the Church has 
defined it infallibly as dogma. The Bible says it infallibly in support of that 
dogmatic definition. No amount of modernistic theological opinion emanating 
from anywhere, even the highest of the Church authorities, or the Pope himself 
can change that dogma. If any Pope were to try with the same legal force to 
contradict any previously defined dogma, then I believe emphatically, that if 
he did not get struck dead on the spot, (its happened in the past) then he must 
be an imposter pope, and a false Christian. (which is why he did not get struck 
dead. The Holy Ghost cannot be made a liar)

Thus in light of that afore said belief, if I were able to show physically by a 
neutral polar launched orbiter, a physically moving earth towards the east, or 
if by my gyro experiment ,  the properties indicated a definite rotational 
movement of this world, then rather than lose any of my beliefs stated above, I 
would proceed to look for another explanation in the physics of gyroscopic 
forces, and even consider Roberts cosmic inertia, or Sungenis' universal Mass. 
If I could never find an answer, it would change nothing, because perhaps only 
God Himself is meant to understand the truth of it.  After all, no man is as 
good as he thinks he is.  Only One is perfect, and He was the essence of 
humility. 

Philip.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Shelton 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:51 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Did NASA do it?



  Philip,

  How do you now believe?  Do you feel the geo.sats still allow for
  geocentricity?  Shouldn't we have a geocentric answer then, for the figure
  eights the h-people always talk about?  For without it, would not Biblical
  credibility indeed be mashed to pieces?

  Gary

  [Philip wrote]

  <snip>

   I have shown unanswerable evidence of the existence of these orbiters.   I
  still cannot see how such would in any way destroy biblical credibility.
  >
  > Philip.



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