[geocentrism] Re: Gary asked for it.
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:13:10 +1000
Happy to talk that off list Cheryl... I was not preaching my religion. ... I
told the list why I hold to geocentrism agains all commers, no matter what
religion. . I am not about debateing one religious belief versus another. Not
here . Neville has his reason, I have mine...Jack has his etc.. Only recently
I defended Mike to be allowed his say even though He was /is an avowed athiest.
I'm here to help the fight for what we hold in common, to share our scientific
knowledge, against Mikes science, not his beliefs. If we can...
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl B.
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:54 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Gary asked for it.
Philip -- You say the church has all authority. Well, the Pope IS the
church, the Roman Catholic Church. He is infallable, Christ on Earth. So
here you have the Pope in conflict with the Scripture.
Which really has the authority? The Bible or a manmade religion with a
leader bequeathed with imaginary, nonscriptural powers?
Cheryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Gary asked for it.
> Ok You asked for my belief to be clarified. Here it is.
> The Bible is for me open to interpretation in many of its aspects. Thus I
can be changed in my view of some things given sufficient evidence.
>
> However where the Church has authoritively DEFINED, as quite distinct from
mere theological opinion , an unterpretation as a matter of dogma, then any
evidence no matter what or how convincing it is, must be suspected, nay more
than that, must be rejected, as having any validity, and I would consider it
as error, and that we would have to look for another physical answer for the
evidence we observe.
>
> If I am wrong in this then not only does the Church lose its credibility,
but the words of Jesus Christ Himself, and the Bible as well all go down the
drain... So I know that cannot happen.
>
> In relation to our subject, the immobility of this world, the Church has
defined it infallibly as dogma. The Bible says it infallibly in support of
that dogmatic definition. No amount of modernistic theological opinion
emanating from anywhere, even the highest of the Church authorities, or the
Pope himself can change that dogma. If any Pope were to try with the same
legal force to contradict any previously defined dogma, then I believe
emphatically, that if he did not get struck dead on the spot, (its happened
in the past) then he must be an imposter pope, and a false Christian. (which
is why he did not get struck dead. The Holy Ghost cannot be made a liar)
>
> Thus in light of that afore said belief, if I were able to show physically
by a neutral polar launched orbiter, a physically moving earth towards the
east, or if by my gyro experiment , the properties indicated a definite
rotational movement of this world, then rather than lose any of my beliefs
stated above, I would proceed to look for another explanation in the physics
of gyroscopic forces, and even consider Roberts cosmic inertia, or Sungenis'
universal Mass. If I could never find an answer, it would change nothing,
because perhaps only God Himself is meant to understand the truth of it.
After all, no man is as good as he thinks he is. Only One is perfect, and
He was the essence of humility.
>
> Philip.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Shelton
> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:51 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Did NASA do it?
>
>
>
> Philip,
>
> How do you now believe? Do you feel the geo.sats still allow for
> geocentricity? Shouldn't we have a geocentric answer then, for the
figure
> eights the h-people always talk about? For without it, would not
Biblical
> credibility indeed be mashed to pieces?
>
> Gary
>
> [Philip wrote]
>
> <snip>
>
> I have shown unanswerable evidence of the existence of these orbiters.
I
> still cannot see how such would in any way destroy biblical credibility.
> >
> > Philip.
>
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