[duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
- From: "Tesfaye Mihretu" <Tesfaye.Mihretu@xxxxxxx>
- To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:17:22 -0400
Hello George, It is Index Everest. I just selected from the list you
provided.
Tesfaye
-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
George Bell
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:06 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille
page.
Why are you selecting Index Blue bar to drive an Everest?
Or have I misunderstood something?
George Bell.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19 August 2004 17:00
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
> Sorry Peter, I did misunderstand your instructions. As soon
> as I sent you an email, I realized what I did was wrong.
> However when I am embossing multi copies, Everest embosser is
> giving "Everest ready" echo every time it embosses a page.
> Most of the time my business card file has only one page. Is
> there any way I could turn off that sound. This only
> happens when I select Index Basic (blue bar) machine.
>
> Your assistance is very much appreciated.
>
> Tesfaye
> CNIB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:16 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
>
> Tesfaye,
>
> I have no problem embossing this document.
>
> Let me try again to ask the questions I asked earlier. It
> seems that you may have misunderstood them.
>
> I am only interested in embossing from DBT 10.5; the success
> or failure of other products, including DBT 10.4 isn't my concern.
>
> DBT can emboss to an Index embosser by connecting directly to
> the serial or parallel port to which the embosser is
> attached. DBT can also emboss to an Index embosser by
> connecting through the Index driver. One controls how DBT
> connects to the embosser by selecting the embosser name in
> either Document, Embosser Setup or Global, Embosser Setup.
> Then, you must click the Edit button and select either "Send
> to Printer" (to write through the Index
> driver) or "Write to Port" (to write directly to the port to
> which the embosser is attached). I am interested to know
> whether you have tried with each of these approaches.
>
> If neither approach works, please try embossing to a file
> (choose the third option -- "Write to File" after clicking
> the Edit button), and then send this file to me.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:36 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
> Hello Peter, I am just sending you a small file (1 page
> long) It works fine with DBT 10.4 version. Index's own
> printer drivers works. Can you try this file? Thanks.
>
> Tesfaye
> CNIB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
>
> Tesfaye,
>
> I agree -- worrisome is a good word.
>
> I cannot think of any good reason why this would be happening
> in beta 6 and not in beta 5 (or beta 1, for that matter).
> We've changed little about the Index "drivers" in that time
> -- and absolutely nothing that should have any direct bearing
> since beta 5.
>
> Have you tried both:
> - Embossing through Index's own printer drivers, and
> - Embossing directly to a serial or parallel port?
>
> If so, please try also embossing to a file, then send me the file.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:47 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
> Hello All, This is becoming worrisome to me. I am having
> the same problems that I did not have in Beta 5. Here at the
> CNIB, we do have 2 Index Basic-D and One Index 4 x 4 Pro. I
> just tried Beta 6 version of DBT on each of them and only a
> dot embossed.
>
> Any ideas why this happens all the sudden.
>
> Tesfaye
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Durber [mailto:dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:22 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
>
> Please, when responding to messages such as my original
> message, specify not only the make but also the model by that
> particular manufacturer.
>
> If I didn't know Index products, I would not have a clue as
> to whether you were talking about an Index Basic-D, Index
> Basic-S, Index 4 x 4, etc.
>
> Saying that your embosser has 10.4, tells me absolutely
> nothing about the model of embosser.
>
> Index might have an embosser called 10.4.
>
> The number 10.4 might refer to the firmware that is
> installed, or it could be the particular version of the
> software that your machine has loaded.
>
> Sincerely:
>
> Dave Durber
>
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:54:09 -1000, you wrote:
>
> >My 2 cents worth:
> >My Index is 10.4.
> >I have the top margin on the embosser set to 1.
> >In DBT I have desired lines at 25 and top to 0.
> >The default line spacing is 5.0.
> >
> >At 08:24 AM 8/16/2004, you wrote:
> >>Dave,
> >>
> >>I agree in principle that DBT should be able to calculate
> these things
> >>correctly, provided only that you tell DBT what the line spacing is.
> >>Of course, that suggests that DBT would ask. However,
> we're not able
> >>to add that feature before release.
> >>
> >>The good news for all concerned is that DBT's embosser
> setup & driving
> >>is contained in a separate DLL, so we'll be able to touch up things
> >>like this without going through a full new release cycle.
> >>
> >>As for the question of what the factory default setting is
> -- I don't
> know.
> >>David is investigating this now.
> >>
> >>- Peter
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
> >>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:24 PM
> >>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per
> braille page.
> >>
> >>Regardless as to whether my embosser is set to the
> "default" or not,
> >>DBT should be able to make the right calculation as to the correct
> >>number of lines per page no matter what the Line Spacing is
> set in the
> embosser.
> >>
> >>Just for interest sake, what should the default line
> spacing be when
> >>an index Basic-D leaves the manufacturer.
> >>
> >>Sincerely:
> >>
> >>Dave Durber
> >>
> >>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:52:57 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi Peter.
> >> >
> >> >Yes, I think you hit the nail on the head as usual, line
> spacing is
> >> >not set
> >>at the default in Dave's embosser and that may be the issue.
> >> >
> >> >I wonder then could other parameters break this such as
> setting it
> >> >to
> >>Japanese braille etc?
> >> >
> >> >I am a bit puzzled.
> >> >
> >> >Don
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:26:47 -0400, Peter Sullivan wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Don,
> >> >>
> >> >>That is not true. Dave has in fact set things up
> correctly, by all
> >> >>appearances. My guess is that we just have the wrong
> value for the
> >> >>number of lines that a Basic-D might put on 11" paper. Perhaps
> >> >>this is because Dave uses a spacing that we didn't anticipate.
> >> >>
> >> >>For the record, DBT's "Desired" top margin in *not* added to the
> >> >>top margin specified in Device Settings. Rather, DBT
> enforces the
> >> >>value in Device Settings ad the minimum possible value for a
> >> >>desired top margin. DBT adds CR/LF pairs (or whatever
> line ending
> >> >>is appropriate) when the desired top margin exceeds the Device
> >> >>Settings
> value.
> >> >>
> >> >>- Peter
> >> >>
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Breda
> >> >>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 PM
> >> >>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per
> braille page.
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi Dave.
> >> >>
> >> >>You have a top margin of 1 in the embosser setup and a
> top margin
> >> >>of 1 in the Index embosser itself. This is your problem.
> >> >>
> >> >>You can not have an option such as top margin set in both places.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Don
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:26:32 -0400, Dave Durber wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I own three Index Basic-D braille embossers. Firmware
> version II,
> >> >>>software version 4.40 installed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Since the beginning of the Beta Cycle for the release
> of DBT 10.5,
> >> >>>I have been trying to understand why I cannot emboss
> the desired
> >> >>>number of lines per page from the embosser when using DBT 10.5.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Following are the settings that I set in the Basic-D:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Group Page Layout Menu
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Characters Per Line: 30
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Left Margin: 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>B Margin: 0 (This is actually Binding Margin).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Top Margin: 1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Bottom Margin: 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Line Spacing: 5.2 (At this setting, with the top
> margin set to 1,
> >> >>>the embosser can emboss 25 lines per page. With a top
> margin of
> >> >>>0, the embosser can emboss 26 lines per page but the embosser
> >> >>>starts embossing approximately 1 quarter of an inch
> from the top
> >> >>>of the page, which is too near the top of the page.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Page Mode: Double-Sided
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Print Mode: Normal
> >> >>>
> >> >>>page number: off
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Paper Length 1: 11 inches
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Paper Length 2: 11 inches
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Z-folding: Off
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Group Option Settings
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Word Wrap: Off
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Auto Line Feed: Off
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Form-Feed: Off
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Impact Level: 4
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Delay Time: 4
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Print Quality: Normal
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Graphic Dot Distance: 2.0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Text Dot Distance: Normal Pring-out Mode 2.5
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Setup: Open
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Paper Jam: On
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Distance After File: 1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>DBT 10.5 Settings:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Global Embosser Settings:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Braiiller Device: Basic-D
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Under Brailler Device Edit Button:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>General Tab Page:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Embosser Model: Index Basic-D
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Setup Name: Basic-D
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Default Form: Narrow Width, 11 inch long, braille paper
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Output Options: Write to port
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Output to LPT1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Device Settings Tab Page
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Embosser Version: Firmware Version II
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Left margin (extra cells): 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Rightmost cell placement: 30
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Top Margin setting: 1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Interpoint embossing is enabled: checked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Output encoding: North American
> >> >>>
> >> >>>High Punctuation: Uppercase
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Letter case: Lowercase
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Advanced Tab Page
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Job setup, use custom job setup: unchecked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>End of line indicator: Carriage Return, line feed (PC)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>End of page indicator: Form Feed Only
> >> >>>
> >> >>>EOL on a full line: Checked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The last four buttons on this page are unchecked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Returning to the Global Embosser Setup Page
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Braille formatting form: Narrow width, 11 inch long,
> braille paper
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Desired formatting:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Characters per line: 30
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Lines per page: 25
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Top Margin: 1
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Binding Margin: 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Emboss in interpoint: Checked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Emboss Banner page: unchecked
> >> >>>
> >> >>>When I emboss a file with the above settings, I do not get a
> >> >>>braille file with 25 lines embossed on each side of the
> page as I
> would expect.
> >> >>>However, If I set the number of lines in DBT to 24, I get a
> >> >>>braille output that has 24 lines of braille on each side of the
> >> >>>sheet
> of paper.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Please advise me as to how I can get 25 lines on each side of a
> >> >>>sheet of paper, using the above settings.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I have run out of ideas.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Personally speaking, all of the embosser information
> should not be
> >> >>>contained in one embosser such as "emb.elt". It would be a far
> >> >>>more sensible and logical, not only to say, more efficient for
> >> >>>operating and troubleshooting reasons to have DBT create an
> >> >>>individual file for each embosser that is installed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Sincerely:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Dave Durber
> >> >>>
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