[duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:53:24 -0400

Don,

Yes, setting an embosser to "Japanese Spacing" does cause problems for DBT
10.5.  For the GEMINI, we've handled this by creating a separate "model"
called "Nippon Telesoft GEMINI (Small Spacing)".  A similar approach could
be taken with other embossers, regardless of whether the spacing is actually
smaller or larger than what we assume as a default.

This is something that could be handled better, of course, but it didn't
enter our design discussions until beta was underway.

Now that Dave has confirmed that he's getting single-sided output, David is
presumably at work drafting a response, which may well include a revised
emb.elt that describes things better for Dave's situation.  This is hardly
ideal, but it should get things working.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:53 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.

Hi Peter.

Yes, I think you hit the nail on the head as usual, line spacing is not set
at the default in Dave's embosser and that may be the issue.

I wonder then could other parameters break this such as setting it to
Japanese braille etc?

I am a bit puzzled.

Don

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:26:47 -0400, Peter Sullivan wrote:

>Don,
>
>That is not true.  Dave has in fact set things up correctly, by all 
>appearances.  My guess is that we just have the wrong value for the 
>number of lines that a Basic-D might put on 11" paper.  Perhaps this is 
>because Dave uses a spacing that we didn't anticipate.
>
>For the record, DBT's "Desired" top margin in *not* added to the top 
>margin specified in Device Settings.  Rather, DBT enforces the value in 
>Device Settings ad the minimum possible value for a desired top margin.  
>DBT adds CR/LF pairs (or whatever line ending is appropriate) when the 
>desired top margin exceeds the Device Settings value.
>
>- Peter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Breda
>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 PM
>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.
>
>Hi Dave.
>
>You have a top margin of 1 in the embosser setup and a top margin of 1 
>in the Index embosser itself. This is your problem.
>
>You can not have an option such as top margin set in both places.
>
>
>Don
>
>
>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:26:32 -0400, Dave Durber wrote:
>
>>I own three Index Basic-D braille embossers. Firmware version II, 
>>software version 4.40 installed.
>>
>>Since the beginning of the Beta Cycle for the release of DBT 10.5, I 
>>have been trying to understand why I cannot emboss the desired number 
>>of lines per page from the embosser when using DBT 10.5.
>>
>>Following are the settings that I set in the Basic-D:
>>
>>Group Page Layout Menu
>>
>>Characters Per Line: 30
>>
>>Left Margin: 0
>>
>>B Margin: 0  (This is actually Binding Margin).
>>
>>Top Margin: 1
>>
>>Bottom Margin: 0
>>
>>Line Spacing: 5.2  (At this setting, with the top margin set to 1, the 
>>embosser can emboss 25 lines per page.  With a top margin of 0, the 
>>embosser can emboss 26 lines per page but the embosser starts 
>>embossing approximately 1 quarter of an inch from the top of the page, 
>>which is too near the top of the page.
>>
>>Page Mode: Double-Sided
>>
>>Print Mode: Normal
>>
>>page number: off
>>
>>Paper Length 1: 11 inches
>>
>>Paper Length 2: 11 inches
>>
>>Z-folding: Off
>>
>>Group Option Settings
>>
>>Word Wrap: Off
>>
>>Auto Line Feed: Off
>>
>>Form-Feed: Off
>>
>>Impact Level: 4
>>
>>Delay Time: 4
>>
>>Print Quality: Normal
>>
>>Graphic Dot Distance: 2.0
>>
>>Text Dot Distance: Normal Pring-out Mode 2.5
>>
>>Setup: Open
>>
>>Paper Jam: On
>>
>>Distance After File: 1
>>
>>DBT 10.5 Settings:
>>
>>Global Embosser Settings:
>>
>>Braiiller Device: Basic-D
>>
>>Under Brailler Device Edit Button:
>>
>>General Tab Page:
>>
>>Embosser Model: Index Basic-D
>>
>>Setup Name: Basic-D
>>
>>Default Form:  Narrow Width, 11 inch long, braille paper
>>
>>Output Options: Write to port
>>
>>Output to LPT1
>>
>>Device Settings Tab Page
>>
>>Embosser Version: Firmware Version II
>>
>>Left margin (extra cells): 0
>>
>>Rightmost cell placement: 30
>>
>>Top Margin setting: 1
>>
>>Interpoint embossing is enabled: checked
>>
>>Output encoding: North American
>>
>>High Punctuation: Uppercase
>>
>>Letter case: Lowercase
>>
>>Advanced Tab Page
>>
>>Job setup, use custom job setup: unchecked
>>
>>End of line indicator: Carriage Return, line feed (PC)
>>
>>End of page indicator: Form Feed Only
>>
>>EOL on a full line: Checked
>>
>>The last four buttons on this page are unchecked
>>
>>Returning to the Global Embosser Setup Page
>>
>>Braille formatting form: Narrow width, 11 inch long, braille paper
>>
>>Desired formatting:
>>
>>Characters per line: 30
>>
>>Lines per page: 25
>>
>>Top Margin: 1
>>
>>Binding Margin: 0
>>
>>Emboss in interpoint: Checked
>>
>>Emboss Banner page: unchecked
>>
>>When I emboss a file with the above settings, I do not get a braille 
>>file with 25 lines embossed on each side of the page as I would expect.
>>However, If I set the number of lines in DBT to 24, I get a braille 
>>output that has 24 lines of braille on each side of the sheet of paper.
>>
>>Please advise me as to how I can get 25 lines on each side of a sheet 
>>of paper, using the above settings.
>>
>>I have run out of ideas.
>>
>>Personally speaking, all of the embosser information should not be 
>>contained in one embosser such as "emb.elt".  It would be a far more 
>>sensible and logical, not only to say, more efficient for operating 
>>and troubleshooting reasons to have DBT create an individual file for 
>>each embosser that is installed.
>>
>>Sincerely:
>>
>>Dave Durber
>>
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>Don Breda
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Don Breda
Duxbury Systems INC.
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