[duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:06:42 -0400

Dave,

DBT 10.4 had one approach to allowing itself to be configured for each
embosser; DBT 10.5 has a different way.  DBT 10.5 uses a method that is
supposed to be more automated, and easier to understand.  However, it may
not David is trying to help you bridge that gap.

Have you yet answered his question?  David asked:

  - If, when you try to get 25 lines interpoint, you don't get just that,
what do you get?

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:43 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page.

Hello George:

I believe that dbt is including the top margin as another line to be
deducted from the total number of lines for each side of the page.  I
personally think that DBT it is counting its tomp margin of 1 in addition to
the top margin of 1 that is set in the embosser settings, thus making a top
margin of 2.

As I said in my original E-mail, with the line spacing set to 5.2 or
5.3 in the Index, with the top and bottom margin set to zero, the embosser
says that it can emboss a maximum of 26 lines of braille on each side of the
page.

I do not think that the problem is with the Index Basic-D, I think the
problem is with DBT 10.5 and how it determines the number of lines that are
to be sent to the embosser for each side of the page.

I had no problem sending 25 interpoint lines of braille text to the embosser
up to and including DBT 10.4.  This is why I do not think that the problem
lies with the embosser.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:13:15 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi David,
>
>When a double-sided Index is sent more than it can emboss on a page, it 
>will essentially revert to what appears to be single-sided.
>
>The embosser MUST see the end of page BEFORE it reaches its own 
>internal end of setting.
>
>George.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of David Holladay
>> Sent: 16 August 2004 17:48
>> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired
>lines per braille page.
>> 
>> Dave:
>> 
>> Please tell me what kind of output you are
>getting. Then I
>> can figure out how to help you.
>> 
>> -- David Holladay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 11:26 AM 8/16/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> >I own three Index Basic-D braille embossers.
>Firmware version II,
>> >software version 4.40 installed.
>> >
>> >Since the beginning of the Beta Cycle for the
>release of DBT 10.5, I
>> >have been trying to understand why I cannot
>emboss the
>> desired number
>> >of lines per page from the embosser when using
>DBT 10.5.
>> >
>> >Following are the settings that I set in the
>Basic-D:
>> >
>> >Group Page Layout Menu
>> >
>> >Characters Per Line: 30
>> >
>> >Left Margin: 0
>> >
>> >B Margin: 0  (This is actually Binding Margin).
>> >
>> >Top Margin: 1
>> >
>> >Bottom Margin: 0
>> >
>> >Line Spacing: 5.2  (At this setting, with the
>top margin set
>> to 1, the
>> >embosser can emboss 25 lines per page.  With a
>top margin of 0, the
>> >embosser can emboss 26 lines per page but the
>embosser
>> starts embossing
>> >approximately 1 quarter of an inch from the top
>of the page,
>> which is
>> >too near the top of the page.
>> >
>> >Page Mode: Double-Sided
>> >
>> >Print Mode: Normal
>> >
>> >page number: off
>> >
>> >Paper Length 1: 11 inches
>> >
>> >Paper Length 2: 11 inches
>> >
>> >Z-folding: Off
>> >
>> >Group Option Settings
>> >
>> >Word Wrap: Off
>> >
>> >Auto Line Feed: Off
>> >
>> >Form-Feed: Off
>> >
>> >Impact Level: 4
>> >
>> >Delay Time: 4
>> >
>> >Print Quality: Normal
>> >
>> >Graphic Dot Distance: 2.0
>> >
>> >Text Dot Distance: Normal Pring-out Mode 2.5
>> >
>> >Setup: Open
>> >
>> >Paper Jam: On
>> >
>> >Distance After File: 1
>> >
>> >DBT 10.5 Settings:
>> >
>> >Global Embosser Settings:
>> >
>> >Braiiller Device: Basic-D
>> >
>> >Under Brailler Device Edit Button:
>> >
>> >General Tab Page:
>> >
>> >Embosser Model: Index Basic-D
>> >
>> >Setup Name: Basic-D
>> >
>> >Default Form:  Narrow Width, 11 inch long,
>braille paper
>> >
>> >Output Options: Write to port
>> >
>> >Output to LPT1
>> >
>> >Device Settings Tab Page
>> >
>> >Embosser Version: Firmware Version II
>> >
>> >Left margin (extra cells): 0
>> >
>> >Rightmost cell placement: 30
>> >
>> >Top Margin setting: 1
>> >
>> >Interpoint embossing is enabled: checked
>> >
>> >Output encoding: North American
>> >
>> >High Punctuation: Uppercase
>> >
>> >Letter case: Lowercase
>> >
>> >Advanced Tab Page
>> >
>> >Job setup, use custom job setup: unchecked
>> >
>> >End of line indicator: Carriage Return, line
>feed (PC)
>> >
>> >End of page indicator: Form Feed Only
>> >
>> >EOL on a full line: Checked
>> >
>> >The last four buttons on this page are
>unchecked
>> >
>> >Returning to the Global Embosser Setup Page
>> >
>> >Braille formatting form: Narrow width, 11 inch
>long, braille paper
>> >
>> >Desired formatting:
>> >
>> >Characters per line: 30
>> >
>> >Lines per page: 25
>> >
>> >Top Margin: 1
>> >
>> >Binding Margin: 0
>> >
>> >Emboss in interpoint: Checked
>> >
>> >Emboss Banner page: unchecked
>> >
>> >When I emboss a file with the above settings, I
>do not get a braille
>> >file with 25 lines embossed on each side of the
>page as I
>> would expect.  
>> >However, If I set the number of lines in DBT to
>24, I get a braille
>> >output that has 24 lines of braille on each
>side of the
>> sheet of paper.
>> >
>> >Please advise me as to how I can get 25 lines
>on each side
>> of a sheet
>> >of paper, using the above settings.
>> >
>> >I have run out of ideas.
>> >
>> >Personally speaking, all of the embosser
>information should not be
>> >contained in one embosser such as "emb.elt".
>It would be a far more
>> >sensible and logical, not only to say, more
>efficient for
>> operating and
>> >troubleshooting reasons to have DBT create an
>individual
>> file for each
>> >embosser that is installed.
>> >
>> >Sincerely:
>> >
>> >Dave Durber
>> >
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