[ddots-l] Re: sound card and mixer recommendations

  • From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:10:57 -0400

Forgive my ignorance but if I had preamps, would I need an external mixer?
So used to using the Mackey 1202 with the delta card, hard to teach an old
dog new tricks. Thanks again.

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:50 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sound card and mixer recommendations

I agree with some of the previous posts but just want to add my 2 cents.
Do you spesifically want a outboard mixer or would you be comfortable mixing
in the box with a control serfice? To keep your options open I would say
anyway get a pc with firewire, then you have options for both firewire and
PCI or PCI-e.
RME makes great digital PCI cards but from what I've heard their firewire
stuff is not that great and for the feetures it's anyway way over priced.
Only thing with the RME digital cards is that you'll have to get a external
pre amp with ADAT outputs if you choose to get a ADAT PCI card but luckally
there's a lot of options for external pre amps out there. The easyer option
and one I would personally recommend is one of the focusrite cards like the
safire pro 40 which gives you your 8 channel recording and a further 8
channels of ADAT input to connect a external pre to go up to 16 channels of
recording. Other options for firewire 8 channel interfaces are the presonus
firestudio and there's also a firestudio tube with 8 solid state pre amps
and 2 velve pre amps.
If not wanting a outboard mixer you can couple any of the above with a
control serfice, I hear the Mackie ones are really popular.
As a all in one solution you can also look at the Mackie onyx firewire
mixer. I'm not sure of the exact model but I know the biggest one will give
you 16 track recording directly from the analog mixer via firewire, it's
also a full analog board so you can basically record, play out to the desk
to mix in analog and then record your final stereo mix back in to sonar.

On 9/21/12, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, what will you be doing for the most part, recording with mics, 
> playing back lots of tracks (mixing and mastering), or messing around 
> with soft synths, or a bit of all that. Performance wise, PCI express 
> cards run better than firewire or USB, mainly because firewire 
> interfaces for the most part use dice II chipsets which has its 
> limitations; I think you can't go lower than 64 samples buffer. From 
> what I've seen PCIE cards have better latency and can go down to 32 on 
> a system that is properly configured, which is the question, what kind 
> of system are you getting, is it a prepared daw?
> Bak to interfaces, RME makes some solid stuff, but it's expensive, and 
> you'll have to buy the proper breakout box for your needs; not sure on 
> its preAmps and such, but the drivers, stability and latency is good.
>
> In the firewire land, there's the focusrite saffire lines, stuff like 
> the pro40, the liquid mix, the 56 etc. Motu also has some good stuff 
> in both USB and I believe PCIE and firewire.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
>   _____
>
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:50 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sound card and mixer recommendations
>
>
>
> Haven't decided on the type of connection yet, either PCI or firewire.
> Would
> you recommend firewire? e budget is not the problem.
>
>
>
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:43 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sound card and mixer recommendations
>
>
>
> What's your budget? What kind of  connection capabilities does your 
> new computer have, firewire, PCI express, USB etc.
>
> How much controll do you want over control panel and such, do you have 
> outboard gear like preAmps and such or do you need something with good 
> preas already in it?
>
>
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:33 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] sound card and mixer recommendations
>
> Hi: For a few years I've been waiting for caketalking to make 9 
> accessible and although I purchased 8.5 I've never installed it. Been 
> using 6; however, I'm about to upgrade to 64 bit  with a new computer 
> and sonar 8.5. Any recommendations for workable sound cards and mixers 
> to enable me to record at least eight tracks at once? Thanks in 
> advance.
>
> John Fioravanti
>
>
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