Besides, there are book edged scanners such as the OpticBook 3600 and 4600 that let you scan up into the bindings of print books a single page at a time, ensuring flat pages, and no damage to the book. The problem is going to be in the enormous amount of hand editing to handle the musical notation which no normal text-oriented package or word-processor will be able to do. Besides recognition, the document has to be recomposed in a sensible manner, just as it had to be decomposed into regions prior to the process. It's the process and the tool here that are problematic. It would be better to have the copyright holder/publisher give some organization the data probably an XTML document and let some knowledgeable people deal with it. I can almost guarantee it will be a worthless waste of effort if one tries to scan a complex document like that then edit the product afterwards. Nick From: Charles Marston Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:42 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: O.T. Best way to get print book accessible? Omar: Omar: From my personal experience, I have never had to tare a book apart in order to scann it. Open Book is able to compensate for pages that are not completely flat or perfectly strait on the scanning surface. However, with some really bulky books, you do run into some problems such as missing letters. However, at least in my case, I never had to take the book apart for scanning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: O.T. Best way to get print book accessible? Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:08:49 -0400 Charles, Do you find that with open book you have to tare the book apart for the best scan possible? ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Marston To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: O.T. Best way to get print book accessible? Kevin: BookShare membership is $50 per year. They have many volunteers who both scann and review the books before making them available to members. I don't know for sure but I imagine they could scann a book that you send and make it available to all members. I am pretty sure they use Open Book to do this. I have it myself and it does a very good job with most books. however, keep in mind that OB is designed to ignore pictures and graphs on the pages. Given that this book on music notation may have a lot of pictures or graphs, I am sure you will get many confusing pages. I believe the volunteers concentrate on the text, so I don't think they would spend any time if at all in fixing the mistakes caused by the graphs. However, if this book is more like a dictionary with small pictures and a lot of text explaining the uses of the signs, I think you could get most of it with OB. I believe that in order to get services from RFB, you need to be a student. So, if you are a student, you can get their help and this should not cost you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx To: blindgeekzone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] O.T. Best way to get print book accessible? Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:50:37 -0500 Dear All, I recently purchased a copy of "Music Notation" by Gardner Reed. This is the bible of print notation conventions. I asked prior to buying the book and found that it was not part of the collection of RFB&D or Book Share. Since I don't know how either of those services work, I'd like to know which of them is the best to go to and ask them to consider including this book in their collection. Failing that, are there services that would scan an entire book into PDF for a fee? I don't own a Sara or Open Book and don't want to buy one for this purpose. Anyway, if anyone has a suggestion as to how to make this book as accessible as possible, I'd love to know. Thanks, Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy.