I've had my own web site for years and I've never used the headers in my files. Granted my pages are not fancy, but I don't need them to be fancy. And you can save a text file with an html extension. I do it all of the time. I edit my web pages in notepad because it automatically saves it as a text file. -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: The Curse of the Holy Pail by Sue Ann Jaffarian See everything I've read this year at: www.michrxtech.com/books.html