Crickets as in.....total silence except for a few crickets....? Yeah, I was
wondering if maybe the questions were so dumb that no one bothered to
answer them because everyone knows the answers!
I'm not looking for legal advice, just anyone's experience with these and
where to go find some information (regulations, etc.). The US Munitions
List is such a catch-all that it's hard to know what's really verboten and
what's not (igniters are a good example).
John, thanks for the info re UN class of material. I'm vaguely familiar
with UN numbers but I'll research that more.
Bruce, I'm in Logan, UT.
"These are the kinds of questions people usually get paid to answer..."--I
guess that's true. A little soapboxing here--it's a shame our government
can't make its laws and regulations easy for its law-abiding citizens to
find and understand, especially since "ignorance of the law is no defense."
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Monroe L. King Jr. <
monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
They are all good questions and I could give you some answers to them
BUT!
I'm not a legal entity
The rules can change or be different in your location depending on state
and county. There can be state and local laws that might surprise you.
I don't want to be responsible for the answers you have received.
I keep up with the legal bit for my team and it depends on quite a few
factors.
If your a serious rocketeer the best you can do really is cover your
launch site and transport to/from there.
There are several entities you need to be straight with for large
quantities of propellant.
It can be pretty complicated or it can be pretty simple depending on
what your doing.
It's safer for you to find out for yourself.
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These are the kinds of questions people usually get paid to answer...
-R
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Crickets huh? :-/
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Subject: [AR] Solid propellant regulation questions
There has been a bit of discussion about casting solid motors at the
annual Intercollegiate Rocket Engineeriing Competition, many teams
transport commercial and homemade solid motors to the event and we have
left the legal compliance up to them. I would like to be better informed
about the laws and regulations concerning this (and some related
questions), so if anyone can help answer any of these questions I would
very much appreciate it:
APCP motors? Some web sites won't ship both to one buyer, others require ID
What are the requirements to purchase AP andor powdered aluminum for
(faxed driver license) before selling. Some types of powdered aluminum (and
magnesium) seem to be restricted while others are not.
over the counter and some e-matches online. Some e-matches require a LEUP,
"Igniters" are on the US Munitions List, yet you can buy Estes igniters
but are there types that do not? By having a LEUP, does this “exempt” you
from the USML?
restrictions in other states?
We can buy potassium nitrate over the counter here in Utah. Are there
or other carriers (UPS, FedEx, etc.)?
What are the requirements for shipping a homemade solid motor via USPS
vehicle in most states and across state lines (Federal)?
What are the requirements for carrying a homemade solid motor in a
persons allowed to be in possession of a commercial solid motor? A homemade
What additional restrictions are there for non-US persons? Are non-US
solid motor? Igniters? Are they allowed to purchase ammonium perchlorate,
ammonium nitrate, potassium nitrate, or powdered aluminum or magnesium? If
so, are there other requirements?